AOL to discontinue dial-up internet service after 34 years
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To be honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long.
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To be honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long.
Funny thing is dialup has been non viable for ~15 years if not more where I live. When you can get 100 mbit fibre for like $5 a month and it costs a whopping $12.5 dollars a month for a 1000 mbit fibre line, it makes no economic sense to offer dialup.
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To be honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long.
Every rural house gets a phone line, just like they all get roads and mail
It's not profitable, but that didn't matter because it was a utility
With Broadband, it's a "luxury" so to get it out to a clump of rural users, they all need to pay for it, or wait and hope someone else pays to get it closer.
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Funny thing is dialup has been non viable for ~15 years if not more where I live. When you can get 100 mbit fibre for like $5 a month and it costs a whopping $12.5 dollars a month for a 1000 mbit fibre line, it makes no economic sense to offer dialup.
Where the fuck do you get fiber for $12/month?? Not in the US I assume.
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End of an era
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Every rural house gets a phone line, just like they all get roads and mail
It's not profitable, but that didn't matter because it was a utility
With Broadband, it's a "luxury" so to get it out to a clump of rural users, they all need to pay for it, or wait and hope someone else pays to get it closer.
Not anymore. Now the cell phone company just puts up a tower and runs one fiber line to it and everybody has high speed internet or a rich billionaire launches some satellites into space on his rockets.
Laying one fiber line to a cell phone tower is much cheaper than laying a bunch of fiber lines to each individual household.
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Not anymore. Now the cell phone company just puts up a tower and runs one fiber line to it and everybody has high speed internet or a rich billionaire launches some satellites into space on his rockets.
Laying one fiber line to a cell phone tower is much cheaper than laying a bunch of fiber lines to each individual household.
We may have different standards for "rural areas"....
I did Google for starlink because I'm not up to date on their coverage, and there's still a lot of dead ones up north.
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We may have different standards for "rural areas"....
I did Google for starlink because I'm not up to date on their coverage, and there's still a lot of dead ones up north.
That is possible. I was basing my comment on some information from an FCC report that said that there was no place in the continental United States that was not able to be covered by Starlink.
There was this program called Bead that was going to prioritize places with no internet access whatsoever or dial up for the first people to get funding, and they say they found that there wasn't any, so they had to go for the next thing which was slow internet.
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Funny thing is dialup has been non viable for ~15 years if not more where I live. When you can get 100 mbit fibre for like $5 a month and it costs a whopping $12.5 dollars a month for a 1000 mbit fibre line, it makes no economic sense to offer dialup.
The are large portions on the US where there's dialup or satellite only.
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Where the fuck do you get fiber for $12/month?? Not in the US I assume.
Yeah, probably not. If your country is the size of a postage stamp, it doesn't take a whole lot of capital investment to run fiber through the entire thing. Whereas if your country is the size of the United States, it takes a fuck ton of capital investment to cover even a decent portion of it by laying lines like that.
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That is possible. I was basing my comment on some information from an FCC report that said that there was no place in the continental United States that was not able to be covered by Starlink.
There was this program called Bead that was going to prioritize places with no internet access whatsoever or dial up for the first people to get funding, and they say they found that there wasn't any, so they had to go for the next thing which was slow internet.
And there's lots of valid reasons to not want starlink. So it really doesn't matter if that's the only option.
But...
The American taxpayers have paid telecom companies billions of dollars on at least two separate occasions years apart to roll out broadband to everyone. But they just keep taking money and not doing it, and then a decade later lobby for the money again.
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And there's lots of valid reasons to not want starlink. So it really doesn't matter if that's the only option.
But...
The American taxpayers have paid telecom companies billions of dollars on at least two separate occasions years apart to roll out broadband to everyone. But they just keep taking money and not doing it, and then a decade later lobby for the money again.
Yeah, you do make a good point there. I've seen that happen. Where a company takes money and doesnt do it. Those companies should be made to repay the money with interest for not doing what they said they would. But I've also seen companies that actually do the job and get high-speed internet out to those who wouldn't have otherwise had it. So I think it really just depends on the company.
The two companies I'm thinking of right off the top of my head are AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T took money to roll out broadband and never did so, and T-Mobile merged with Sprint, and said they would roll out high-speed broadband to very rural areas, and actually did do it, and I ended up benefiting from T-Mobile's home internet rollout.
I lived in a pretty rural area for a while that had 10 MBPS wired internet or satellite and then T-Mobile came around and with their home internet you could get 70 MBPS so that was a no-brainer
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Man, AOL is so anachronistic, I thought for sure they had just misspelled AOC and was wondering why she had offered dial-up internet service in the first place.
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Yeah, probably not. If your country is the size of a postage stamp, it doesn't take a whole lot of capital investment to run fiber through the entire thing. Whereas if your country is the size of the United States, it takes a fuck ton of capital investment to cover even a decent portion of it by laying lines like that.
My country is as big as the US and we can get 500 Mbs fibre for $23, less than half what AT&T charges.
Is not the size of the country that make fibre costs to be so high in US, it's unchecked, exploitative capitalism allowed by a corrupt plutocratic government.
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Yeah, probably not. If your country is the size of a postage stamp, it doesn't take a whole lot of capital investment to run fiber through the entire thing. Whereas if your country is the size of the United States, it takes a fuck ton of capital investment to cover even a decent portion of it by laying lines like that.
Less to do with absolute size and more to do with urban density and population concentration.
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Where the fuck do you get fiber for $12/month?? Not in the US I assume.
Of course not.
I remember when I first moved to the US and saw the broadband and cell phone prices. Corruption american style.
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To be honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long.
That’s like Netflix discontinuing their dvd service only a few years ago
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Yeah, probably not. If your country is the size of a postage stamp, it doesn't take a whole lot of capital investment to run fiber through the entire thing. Whereas if your country is the size of the United States, it takes a fuck ton of capital investment to cover even a decent portion of it by laying lines like that.
Bullshit excuses. They were given bank ass roll to build that shit out proper and just pocketed it.