Correction: power users, such as the type on Lemmy, trend towards hating ai. That is by no means “all users” by any stretch of the term.

It is to some people. My approach though, when I happen to have multiple "work group" to organize, is just to use my OS ability to have multiple windows. No need for any extra bloat, the feature is already there, and it works as I'm used to.

But apparently, using the tools already available to you is not a common skill these days

That is disingenuous.

People underestimate the cost of building a fucking browser, it's not the equivalent of maintaining a array sort app on fucking github.

Some random dude promising to "donate from time to time" is not a valid business model.

I wish they'd strip down and just focus on the browser, but fund it HOW? Ads? Subscription?

The reason a lot of companies are doing AI shit is essentially RD shooting in the dark, hoping something will pan out.

You have to do this if you are a tech company and want to survive in the future.

It's fun to meme on ai and but that shit is coming and pretending it doesn't exist or has no value simply isn't true.

So I ask everyone again, what business model exists for a software company to make money without ads or charging a monthly subscription.

Have you used the tab groups?

Probably a bleed-over from the embedded side. Spent a lot of years working embedded control systems for NASA and DoD - bare metal systems, often interrupt driven - and it was common to have 50% margin requirements. They know those systems will grow over time, and they often have lifespans measured in decades.

FF already has tab groups. Right click on one.

Well, stupid people want it and they do use it when its shoved in their face. Like how samsung updated and BLATANTLY made their peice of shit AI button TAKE OVER THR POWER BUTTON so when you try to turn off your phone little old granny gets confused that an ai agent pops up and starts recording you. Absolutely infuriating and I wish torture on whoever implemented that shit.

Correction: power users, such as the type on Lemmy, trend towards hating ai. That is by no means “all users” by any stretch of the term.

According to the article, this is mainly for grouping tabs with a suggested name. Talk about backwards. Use AI to process the top websites on the Internet and create groups and/or logic to group them by keywords (cluster analysis), then save the small data structure in Firefox so it can group most websites instantly, using kilobytes of ram in the process; don't try to do this on everyone's device ffs.

Besides the heat and battery problem, this also means that the GUI is going to be non-deterministic, suggesting groups differently day-to-day based on the slight differences of input and the whims of the LLM. Burn it with fire.

It makes a lot more sense when you realize that the Mozilla corporation is a for profit run by the same techno-fascist aggrandizing bait-and-switch narcissists as the rest of SV.

I've been saying it for years, but I will never donate to Firefox until it is freed from the shackles of a for profit corporation that can use your donation for any profit motive it sees fit; not even related to Firefox.

That would make sense, i hadn't put that together but they had a lot of embedded control systems. This was water treatment but entirely separate from the control systems but i can see them having that a standard requirement

So was it a government (state or federal) water treatment plant? If so, I can tell you how it happened. The government contracting agencies have boilerplate text they're supposed to add to contracts to make sure salient requirements get flowed. They're supposed to delete or tailor anything that doesn't make sense, but the contracts people aren't usually very technical. We had requirements flowed to us about password management and account monitoring, but no one logs into a rocket engine or a torpedo. When we'd point it out, they'd say "oops, we should have deleted that."

You're forgetting the fact that laws are currently only being triggered if said company slanders dear leader.

If Google kisses ass you best believe they would completely allow them to be a monopoly and would ignore any laws being violated

Literally no one on this green earth asked for this shit. In fact, we've been pretty direct about how much we don't want it.

It's exhausting.

Well, stupid people want it and they do use it when its shoved in their face. Like how samsung updated and BLATANTLY made their peice of shit AI button TAKE OVER THR POWER BUTTON so when you try to turn off your phone little old granny gets confused that an ai agent pops up and starts recording you. Absolutely infuriating and I wish torture on whoever implemented that shit.

Waterfox has been pretty good lately

It's also an example of a smaller company trying fight a mega Corp with infinite money, gained via unethical means.

People are shitting on Firefox while ignoring what they are up against.

I have no solution for their funding issue, what are they supposed to do? Charge for the browser or ads? There's literally no other alternative and I don't know what the solution is.

What I do know is that once FF dies and chrome fully owns the web we are well and truly fucked.

Honesty it might already be too late.

Holy shit I had no idea until I read your comment. I thought "surely they will have respected all of my opt outs". I guess this is my last samsung phone lol