Mozilla under fire for Firefox AI "bloat" that blows up CPU and drains battery
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ppl complaining on the internet about something you can literally turn off with one about:config line never change internet
The point is you shouldnt have to turn it off, its a web browser, we want to browse the web, not be subject to whatever shite Mozilla want to force into it. Features like this should be optional plugins you have to download.
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How do you make browsling a good experience, other than performance?
I like the webpage translation it offers. I'd hate to lose it. Sync and tab sending is also very important to me, between desktop, mobile phone, and tablet.
I'm sure debloating would inevitably mean losing features that are required to catch the average internet user.
Well this is obviously personal to some degree, but for me it would be to fix bugs, don't crash, dont make me restart after an update and lose my incognito tabs, focus on being w3c compliant, block ads, maybe allow blocking annoying cookie banners and maybe allow good keyboard navigation. I like some features other browsers have, such as integrated tor browsing - but since I am not a big fan of bloat, I'm not sure whether that should be handled outside of the browser
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Have you used the tab groups?
No, I haven't used tab groups. At least not beyond an initial peek when they were introduced. They're no replacement or useful addition to my vertical hierarchical tabs (Tree Style Tab extension).
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Which fork should I be using? I am already using IronFox on Android and I'm loving it. What about Linux? What's your favourite?
I am using LibreWolf. It's probably the best fork out there.
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Make a stable, privacy respecting, robust browser with a powerful extension environment? No let's try do do chrome 2
Mozilla could solve all of it's issuesby just removing all of the executives
I switched to FF after having enough of Chrome's shenanigans. I don't make changes easily, and I took the sacrifice of not being able to receive calls over Facebook (desktop browser, and some of my acquaintances wouldn't leave FB), and I still preferred Firefox after that.
And now they want to turn it into another Chrome? I could still just use Chrome and have the lost functionality. I mean I won't, but they will just lose users with that direction.
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I love that people get upset that their CPU is using its resources when they're using it.
I want my cou to be idle all the time! Damn it why did I spend so much on a CPU only for it to "do work"? FFS.
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They haven't needed donations for years. In the current situations donos are, at best, part of the CEO and top-brass bonus.
could be, I can't judge that. do you have any source for that info or is it based on an assumption?
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about:config. Not very obvious or user-friendly tbh.You can literally do it through the menu. Go to settings, hit labs or search "ai" and untick it
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why shouldn't you have the option to turn things off? try turning off the ai features in chrome.
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Did a project several years where the customrr required that the server we delivered specifically for the project never use more than 50% CPU or RAM. No requirements about how fast it actually performs its intended function, just that it can only utilise half the available resources while doing it.
That RAM is mint condition collectors edition RAM. We're just storing it there temporarily.
Don't you dare fucking touch it.
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How do you make browsling a good experience, other than performance?
I like the webpage translation it offers. I'd hate to lose it. Sync and tab sending is also very important to me, between desktop, mobile phone, and tablet.
I'm sure debloating would inevitably mean losing features that are required to catch the average internet user.
Why not add this features as browser extension?
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On my pixel 6 pro it takes a few seconds before I can start typing in the browser.
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Firefox has always been resource heavy. Try having multiple streams open at the same time... The browser just takes a shit.
If you want something much lighter and more stable waterfox is the way to go.
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I just wish one could donate to firefox development specifically. Then they could rid it of all the advertisement and tracking stuff.
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I love that people get upset that their CPU is using its resources when they're using it.
Why don't they download more CPU? Are they stupid?
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why shouldn't you have the option to turn things off? try turning off the ai features in chrome.
The problem is that it's opt-out and not opt-in, and it should be opt-in.
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I just want a web browser that's not based in the USA.
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I switched to FF after having enough of Chrome's shenanigans. I don't make changes easily, and I took the sacrifice of not being able to receive calls over Facebook (desktop browser, and some of my acquaintances wouldn't leave FB), and I still preferred Firefox after that.
And now they want to turn it into another Chrome? I could still just use Chrome and have the lost functionality. I mean I won't, but they will just lose users with that direction.
Here I am using browsers like apps. Chrome is my facebook app. I do zero else with it lol.
but really, my solution works fine. Is another 200MB on your SSD really that big of a sacrifice? I have Firefox, Chrome(in a fucking container where it belongs) and Librewolf installed lol.
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I just wish one could donate to firefox development specifically. Then they could rid it of all the advertisement and tracking stuff.
Bless your heart.
They will do whatever they believe will maximize profit.
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I wish Mozilla would just debloat the browser, focus on performance and making browsing a good experience. But unfortunately their revenue situation is bad. At this stage, they won't even manage to survive through donations after annoying their main user base.
Their revenue is fine. They just waste it on unnecessary bullshit.
They're a business, after all. They don't care about their products. They care about doing the least amount of work while making the most amount of money.
It's not about keeping the lights on. It's about living as luxurious a life as possible.
