Schools are using AI to spy on students and some are getting arrested for misinterpreted jokes and private conversations
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Man, if only there was a good way to stop school shooting
Alas, one can only dream
Dream? Not in an American school you don't. You need to stay alert and be ready to "RUN, HIDE, FIGHT" at any moment.
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“It made me feel like, is this the America we live in?”
Some people are really fucking ignorant.
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You know what really grinds my gears? This shitty dystopia completely eschews any potentially cool aspect of invasive exploitative authoritarianism. The (not so) secret police is patching together their own "uniforms" by browsing the bargain bins at the local tacti-cool mall-ninja outfitters. Where's the black leather trench coats, stylish sunglasses worn after dark and slicked back hair? If they're going to ask me for 'ze papers' all the time, the least they can do is look cool doing it, godamnit. At least get Hugo Boss to design your attire; that's just about the only thing that worked out well for the last bunch of pricks.
I mean, where's the towering brutalist architecture? Where's my mandatory daily dose of SOMA? Or my idiotically wirelessly hackable cyberware? Hell, they can't even do bread and circuses right anymore. The bread is CO2-pumped flour glue and the circuses is an endless stream of more Marvel projects and Disney violations of Star Wars.
And don't get me started on the quality of our dictators these days. They sure don't make them like they used to.
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The US will do anything and everything except try proper gun control
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Dream? Not in an American school you don't. You need to stay alert and be ready to "RUN, HIDE, FIGHT" at any moment.
I didn’t realize the schools were using Run, Hide, Fight. That is the same policy for hospital staff in the event of an active shooter. Maddening.
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Unsurprising to me this is happening in schools, they've got to be ready for the low wage retail jobs many will have after graduation. A lot of places have been upgrading their phones to Zoom-enabled devices, which have the ability to record and summarize all employee conversations held near them for management or HR. I've worked in a couple places recently where it got rolled out and there were hints they were using it that way.
Anyone willing to call me paranoid, or supportive of the idea this tech is used this way or will be, please respond, retail isn't really full of many tech savvy people and I'm curious if I'm imagining the capability/use of this, or if others have had similar experiences.
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I didn’t realize the schools were using Run, Hide, Fight. That is the same policy for hospital staff in the event of an active shooter. Maddening.
I'm sorry, in hospitals? Where a significant portion of the residents can do none of those things?
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Not sure what’s worse here: how the police overreacted or that the software immediately contacts law enforcement, without letting teachers (n.b.: they are the professionals here, not the police) go through the positives first.
The idea behind the policy is to stop school shootings. If there were a legitimate threat of violence, you would likely want the police to be notified as soon as possible. The issue here is that the authorities are letting a piece of half-ass code (Read: AI) decide what is a legitimate threat and, worse still, acting on that determination without question.
They have literally sacrificed an essential freedom for some temporary, and probably illusory, security.
The issue here is that the authorities are letting a piece of half-ass code (Read: AI) decide what is a legitimate threat and, worse still, acting on that determination without question.
Yeah, at the very least, the software should be passing on the statement, and context surrounding it, along with its 'judgment', to the authorities, putting all the responsibility for making the call that X genuinely merits action on said authorities.
Of course, that's just one piece of the puzzle, and not a solution if law enforcement isn't held accountable when they fuck up.
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Not sure what’s worse here: how the police overreacted or that the software immediately contacts law enforcement, without letting teachers (n.b.: they are the professionals here, not the police) go through the positives first.
The idea behind the policy is to stop school shootings. If there were a legitimate threat of violence, you would likely want the police to be notified as soon as possible. The issue here is that the authorities are letting a piece of half-ass code (Read: AI) decide what is a legitimate threat and, worse still, acting on that determination without question.
They have literally sacrificed an essential freedom for some temporary, and probably illusory, security.
The police are not effective at dealing with school shootings.
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the policy is to stop school shootings
You should try Europe once. It's more fun than your 3rd world country.
Knowing that Europe literally has a problem with its soccer audiences making monkey noises at black athletes makes this particular bit of condescension all the more ridiculous.
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What a shithole country.
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the policy is to stop school shootings
You should try Europe once. It's more fun than your 3rd world country.
What do you mean, “try Europe?”
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My sense of humor is dry, dark, and absurdist. I’d go to jail every week for the sorts of things I joke about if I was a kid today. This is complete lunacy.
Example of an average joke on my part: speed up and run over that old lady crossing the street!
It makes my partner laugh. I laugh. We both know I don’t mean it. But a crappy AI tool wouldn’t understand that.
But to be fair, as a kid, I'm sure you wouldn't say jokes like that with the most hard-ass teacher in your school in earshot, which is effectively the situation kids are in when they're communicating on a surveilled platform.
Despite the overreaction, it was pretty naive (especially for a 13 year old) to be making jokes like that while "texting with friends on a chat function tied to her school email at Fairview Middle School, which uses Gaggle to monitor students’ accounts", and not think she'd get in some level of trouble, for the same reason you or I would in the situation described in my first sentence above, when we were kids.
I predict a significant decrease in usage of that "chat function" at that school (at least) after this, that's for sure.
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You know what really grinds my gears? This shitty dystopia completely eschews any potentially cool aspect of invasive exploitative authoritarianism. The (not so) secret police is patching together their own "uniforms" by browsing the bargain bins at the local tacti-cool mall-ninja outfitters. Where's the black leather trench coats, stylish sunglasses worn after dark and slicked back hair? If they're going to ask me for 'ze papers' all the time, the least they can do is look cool doing it, godamnit. At least get Hugo Boss to design your attire; that's just about the only thing that worked out well for the last bunch of pricks.
I mean, where's the towering brutalist architecture? Where's my mandatory daily dose of SOMA? Or my idiotically wirelessly hackable cyberware? Hell, they can't even do bread and circuses right anymore. The bread is CO2-pumped flour glue and the circuses is an endless stream of more Marvel projects and Disney violations of Star Wars.
And don't get me started on the quality of our dictators these days. They sure don't make them like they used to.
Can’t they at least smoke cigarettes in a cool and threatening manner?!
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put the phone down
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Something tells me that our type of jokes are on the way out bro. As you said, there's no room for nuance in this story, so I'm afraid we'll eventually all be listened in on 100% of the time until someone says something 'actionable'.
If you're not already on a multitude of lists by now, you're doing something wrong.My understanding is those types of jokes are now en vogue, at least with Republicans. Wait, maybe it’s only wrong when they’re jokes, but it’s OK when the Republicans are serious about these things.
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Gotta indoctrinate them into the surveillance state early. Gotta break them before they learn to resist.
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I just want to point out a lot of you actively support this if it helps curb “hate speech” or fascists or nazis or whatever. But what can be used against the guilty may be used against the innocent so it is best that we do not allow it at all. Either all speech is free or none of it is, there’s no other way.
i do not think you would find many people who actively support the use of artificial intelligence in the monitoring and moderating of hate speech or fascism. those things must be moderated and resisted by people who can be held accountable for mistakes or oversteps, not machines that can not be held accountable for anything.
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Knowing that Europe literally has a problem with its soccer audiences making monkey noises at black athletes makes this particular bit of condescension all the more ridiculous.
Reddit moment: comparing a few racist idiots with daily murders.
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Do you want to badly fuck up a society? Because that is how you badly fuck up a society.