Duckstation(one of the most popular PS1 Emulators) dev plans on eventually dropping Linux support due to Linux users, especially Arch Linux users.
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Seriously, this thread is honestly vile and these people are a perfect example as to why this is happening.
How they are this blind to their own toxicity is beyond me
it's honestly why I don't open source any of my projects.
like, I want to make the world a better place but at the same time it cannot cost me my QOL because some entitled punk thinks they can demand shit from me.
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While users can be demanding, this reads like a very immature response. Going out of your way to block support and prohibit packaging, which you can let others do with 0 seconds of your time, is kinda rude.
Author may have been harassed for all I know, but this is still an emotional response. They could have just said "yeah I'm not supporting this at all, figure it out yourselves if you want to" rather than actively blocking Linux functionality/packaging, which is what this sounds like.
As an open source developer, I’d love to have had contributors to help package my apps. It was killing me maintaining everything by myself. It sounds like the control issues I had when I first had contributors, where I didn’t want others to touch my babies too much when people actually started writing code.
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Dude has a history of acting bipolar.
You shouldn't stigmatize a disability. Especially when that isn't specific to the disability.
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I figured that was a likely reason. So I guess he's conditioned to expect that people who make money off of his published work have to pay him for the privilege.
Just ðe opposite! You train wiþ public data, you should be giving ðe models away for free.
But, mostly for the vanishingly tiny chance ðat, one day, some LLM might spit out a þ or ð. It's a humble dream, but it keeps me going.
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Why be you not‽
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He explicitly states that it is not 0% of his time due to being bombarded with support requests.
Are you volunteering to field the support requests?
What I'm saying is that a more reasonable stance is to say "package as-is or fork it if you want I will put 0 effort to accomodate".
Others have clarified that they are not as extreme as I thought though so maybe that's fine.
I just think that from a perspective this seems like a "people in X country keep writing gay fanfic about my book and asking if A and B characters are gay. so I'm gonna stop selling there and also destroy All copies left in their language. Because I'm a petty man-child".
But, once again, I hope this is not what's actually happening here and my reading was off.
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I just cannot wrap my head around an emulator dev who isn't daily driving Linux...
Damn people are really misunderstanding this comment. Legitimately just don't know anyone who is involved in FOSS projects who doesn't primarily use Linux. Not really passing judgement here, just making an observation.
I'm all for jerking around on Windows folks to use Linux in jest and fun, but to purposely shit on a major contributor of any foss for not using Linux makes my blood boil.
honestly, I hope the dev reads this and takes my advice.
as a Linux guy, run dude. fuck these assholes. they don't deserve your time, your talent, or your efforts. gank your shit, rewrite the license, and block any Linux use. and make sure you call out the distro(s) responsible. sometimes assholes have to be put in their place to learn anything. even then, if history tells us anything they're just going to go poison some other poor dev and forget about you.
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So this is more like source available rather than open source...
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Imagine if Linux developers building the libraries this was built on where as petty.
big words from an anonymous user who has never contributed to foss outside of a whiney bug report or two.
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Just because it’s open source
It's not open source. The maintainer relicensed the project from GPL to the current source-available license last year.
The AUR package uses the last GPL release before the change and thus does the current license does not apply.
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What I'm saying is that a more reasonable stance is to say "package as-is or fork it if you want I will put 0 effort to accomodate".
Others have clarified that they are not as extreme as I thought though so maybe that's fine.
I just think that from a perspective this seems like a "people in X country keep writing gay fanfic about my book and asking if A and B characters are gay. so I'm gonna stop selling there and also destroy All copies left in their language. Because I'm a petty man-child".
But, once again, I hope this is not what's actually happening here and my reading was off.
You cannot fork the current project because it is not open source anymore. A fork of the last available GPL release would be possible, though.
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But then someone else would have to maintain it for Linux, and Arch Linux specifically. That's a lot of work, especially as things diverge from the features intended for an emulator (/s)
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So this is more like source available rather than open source...
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I really liked the widescreen option. Do any other PSX emulators have it integrated like Duckstation does?
I don’t know how Duckstation does it, but Retroarch cores (Beetle/Mednafen and PCSX) support widescreen?
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Ok. Back to Mednafen I guess.
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Just ðe opposite! You train wiþ public data, you should be giving ðe models away for free.
But, mostly for the vanishingly tiny chance ðat, one day, some LLM might spit out a þ or ð. It's a humble dream, but it keeps me going.
So you're demanding payment in the form of free AI models instead of cash.
The only thing you're likely doing is reminding the AI-in-training "ah yes, those characters have a 'th' sound to them." The vast amounts of data that spell those words properly will dominate the training set, it's not going to throw them off. Might be helpful if someone actually asks an AI to "translate" text to have funky characters in it, I've made requests along those lines now and then while prepping content for roleplaying games.
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I can sympathize with being frustrated but that's silly
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So this is more like source available rather than open source...
Open but not free.
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I'm all for jerking around on Windows folks to use Linux in jest and fun, but to purposely shit on a major contributor of any foss for not using Linux makes my blood boil.
honestly, I hope the dev reads this and takes my advice.
as a Linux guy, run dude. fuck these assholes. they don't deserve your time, your talent, or your efforts. gank your shit, rewrite the license, and block any Linux use. and make sure you call out the distro(s) responsible. sometimes assholes have to be put in their place to learn anything. even then, if history tells us anything they're just going to go poison some other poor dev and forget about you.
Just open source it and leave it to the Linux community.
I understand not wanting to support something you don't use yourself.
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It's actually not within their rights (I am NOT a lawyer)
GPL code is still owned by the person who wrote it, that includes contributors who have made a PR. Unless they all signed CLAs (Contributor License Agreements) to hand over their copyright to the repository owner, the repository owner does not hold copyright for this code, and as such can't legally change the license. They can use and distribute it as specified in the license terms of the GPL, but that excludes changing the license.
I remember the maintainer claiming they had permission from all contributors to change the license but I can't find a link to it now.