EU age verification app to ban any Android system not licensed by Google
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to hear it from any non-Americans on lemmy they're better than America.
looks like they're just as susceptible to this fascist bullshit to me though...
We invented this bullshit, of course we're susceptible.
Still better than America, though
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European Digital identity
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Hosted on GitHub in the US
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I do feel like that’s a precarious state to leave this in, especially if they’re developing the backend for it.
Is there even enough momentum for a SKG-style wave of coverage? It would need to be justified properly by citing things like the Tea app data leak, to make a strong case (to political pencil pushers) for the danger of tying personal information to profiles or even to platforms. Otherwise the only thing they’ll see is “gamers want to make porn accessible to children”.
I don’t know. This whole situation boils my blood because I really care about online anonymity, and this is kind of nightmare scenario shit for me. I’m not even in the UK or EU.
I’m not even in the UK or EU.
We've had this shit in the US for a while now.
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Its not the populace, our politicians just like in the US have gone rogue. People are voting for the nutters due to anti immigration propaganda and so increasingly getting far right. Its happening across the entire western world and its bad news for everyone.
had a hope for europe to actually be socialists, at least no one ever confuses america for being left
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Sorry, do you have any sources for this? I was just thinking about getting a VPS in Switzerland today.
Some other commenter mentioned that this is brought up in issues tracker in the repo. Sorry, I didn’t actually check for it.
I’m not in the EU, I didn’t dig into it. FWIW I am also moving my own connections to exit from Switzerland sooner or later.
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EID can be used for anonymous age verification. It doesn't even need to give out your birthday and can attest to any "over the age of X" requirement.
"Government issued app can be used for anonymous age verification."
Doesn't sound like the most trustworthy statement...
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I miss LineageOS so much, my last couple of phones haven't had a build of it and my asshole banking apps wont work on it now.
For my next phone i'm just not going to buy one unless it's already supported and if I have to skip online banking I'll do it.
I use the banks webpage. Still works on LineageOS even when the app doesn’t
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What's going on with Europe lately? You all really want GOOGLE of all mega corps in control of your identity?
You're going the opposite way, it should be your right to install an alternate OS on your phone. If anything they should be banning Google licensed Android.
They get their tech advice for laws from big tech.
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Just like the bank app etc.
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to hear it from any non-Americans on lemmy they're better than America.
looks like they're just as susceptible to this fascist bullshit to me though...
Hey Google, where was the origin of fascism?
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I just wanted the EU to fork lineageOS and provide it as an alternative in major chains.
Fwiw there's fairphone with eOS
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What is it with everyone being obsessed with porn censorship suddenly? Why is this a trend?
At first I thought it's about control and data gathering, but this seems like too much of a genuine attempt at such a system. Why is the government so obsessed with parenting and nannying the citizens?
- Govt. want to control access to everything
- People are not too happy about this
- Govt. say "to protect children, you have to install this app, under these conditions"
- You want to protect childrens, so you do so
- Govt. say "to protect this or that, we have to impose approved gates on many websites, based on the app you installed before"
- You want to protect this or that, so you accept it
- Govt. say "fuck you, you whatever is not in line with the fucking biggot at the helm of your country/federation/whatever, now we know what you do, we control what's allowed, and anything to get around the blocks is illegal and will land you in jail. Fuck you again, fucker."
- You're a happy little plant in a pot.
Basically, it's not about porn. It's not about protecting kids. It's not about helping "victims of abuse". If anything, it's putting all these in more danger, along with everyone else.
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Well, I hope they'll pay for my "EU age verification" phone, since my own won't work. I'll gladly buy one and not use it either.
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To avoid people from simply copying the "age proof" and having others reuse it, a nonce/private key combo is needed. To protect that key a DRM style locked down device is necessary. Conveniently removing your ability to know what your device is doing, just a "trust us".
Seeing the EU doesn't make any popular hardware, their plan will always rely on either Asian or US manufacturers implementing the black-box "safety" chip.
The key doesn't have to be on your phone. You can just send it to some service to sign it, identifying yourself to that service in whatever way.
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Yeah no. Requiring anything Google for something as basic as this violates the GDPR. If they go through with this, it's one legal case until they have to revise it.
Edit: German eID works on any Android btw., flawless actually. I sure hope I can use that for verification
violates the GDPR.
I wouldn't be too sure. Data protection mainly binds private actors. Any data processing demanded by law is legal. You'd really have to know the finer points of the law to judge if this is ok.
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Just use a VPN then.
Wait till they put up a EU Great Firewall and ban VPNs
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What is it with everyone being obsessed with porn censorship suddenly? Why is this a trend?
At first I thought it's about control and data gathering, but this seems like too much of a genuine attempt at such a system. Why is the government so obsessed with parenting and nannying the citizens?
FYI: Most of the world actually restricts, and some outright bans, porn.
Its only western countries that have unrestricted access to porn.
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To avoid people from simply copying the "age proof" and having others reuse it, a nonce/private key combo is needed. To protect that key a DRM style locked down device is necessary. Conveniently removing your ability to know what your device is doing, just a "trust us".
Seeing the EU doesn't make any popular hardware, their plan will always rely on either Asian or US manufacturers implementing the black-box "safety" chip.
If it is about hiding some data handled by the app, that will be instantly extracted.
There are plenty of people with full integrity on rooted phones. It's really annoying to set up and keep going, and requiring that would fuck over most rooted phone/custom os users, but someone to fully inspect and leak everything about the app will always be popping up. -
Is it tied to my real identity?
If not it seems to me that it should be sufficient as to serve as a security this phone is legit and not emulated/compromised. -
'Cos it's been turning (far-)right as well in the last few years.
Which is why Europeans shouldn't be too eager to laugh about the US being a fascist hellhole. It could happen there again if they're not vigilant.
