Atoada so. I fuckin atoadaso.

Yea so let's alienate the left against it while the right embraces it. Fucking brilliant guys. Or or or maybe let's keep spreading reasons the left should hate instead of embrace it so that we allow laws which leave it absolutely gutless for us but still has all the power and features for them to use against us. Then we can get more content from starving artist charging $100 monthly patrons to their Garfield clone webcomic while the right keep winning public opinion and elections and taking away our rights.

Let's see how that plays out cotton.

Of course it is.

Fascists can create the illusions they need to convince morons whilst at the same time making them distrust reality ("nah that's AI")

A lot of people are going to suffer

Idk about this. I think the main issue is social media and filter bubbles. Generative AI contributes, but enough fakes news is there anyways. People will also use real riot videos from 4 years ago and claim that's the LA riots. The Russian troll farms can do this with or without AI. Trump, too. They'll just come up with drinking bleach is good with their own brains.

I don't want to refute this. Generative AI accelerates it immensely and makes it easier and way more. But mind that the core of the problem is society, education and most of all social media.

Also this isn't exactly new, we had Cambridge Analytica since 2014 or something. And manipulating elections and politics by technology is even older than that.

I read a scifi book where this was a plot line. I think everyone just distrusted whatever they read online eventually. Time to touch grass?

Liberal democracy was always a race of who could buy the biggest megaphone. Now they are worried that AI is making it even easier to fling shit and spin lies. Nothing however breaks because of AI, it was all about as dysfunctional as it could get before. What NYT and other legacy media is mostly worried about is that with AI psyops and fake news is becoming more and more democratized instead of an expensive top-down ordeal and for making harder for anybody to trust anything anymore, a trust that they relied on to control the narrative.

Don't blame AI for human failings. This is on humans, not machines.

Nothing however breaks because of AI

The trajectory is the same, but AI put more gas in the tank in a machine that one might have assumed had reached its limits a decade ago when outsourcing had played itself out.

What NYT and other legacy media is mostly worried about is that with AI psyops and fake news is becoming more and more democratized instead of an expensive top-down ordeal and for making harder for anybody to trust anything anymore, a trust that they relied on to control the narrative.

I think you've got it a bit backwards. The NYT operates as a paper of record in large part because it emits a signal that echoes through downstream media. And that stems from the general trust the paper has cultivated (undeserved trust, but welcome to the dictatorship of the bourgeois, folks).

The implementation of AI as a system of record is replacing the NYT as a trustworthy source, in part because the NYT has finally degraded its own credibility. And in part because why would I go fight with a bunch of paywalls and pop-ups and ad banners on the NYT when I can (seemingly) get the same information from a nice clean OpenAI / Gemini / Deepseek prompt.

The expense of setting up a system of record is still enormous. The catch is that the AI companies have more money to propagandize their own reputation. Meanwhile, the NYT and the WaPo and the cable news channels have been suffocating in comparative obscurity when they weren't outright touting AI venues as alternatives to themselves.

News isn't being democratized. Its as horded as ever. These older outlets have simply become vectors to send people to the new and far more efficient Consent Manufacturing Machines.

Please circle the big flaw in your response. The rest of the class will wait.

oh my goodness. who could have seen this coming.

It is clear. AI is poison and pollution.

Oh wow! The incredibly easy and obvious prediction has come true?!

Yeah a lot of propaganda isn’t about any one agenda it’s about people losing their bearings on reality, cutting people loose to create chaos

How's that Republican presidency and supreme court.

Again. Read your comment. Where's your flaw. What did I say and what are you saying? You'll see the issue real quick if you're honest

Let AI run the government.

Take this another way then. You toadaso what? That AI is bad?

but...but... lemmy is far too small for such companies paid to post these things to go after. it would cost too much more for them to just type in a few more urls to post to, so it's ok, there's none on lemmy.

but...but... reddit is far too big for such companies to go after, they wouldn't dare. reddit admins/mods would catch it and block the users.

but...but... facebook wouldn't have such content because meta has so much money they can build like reverse AI that would find it and they'd be able to automatically detect it and remove it.

Fascists can create

We really need to get over this idea that it's only "fascists" using AI to push their ideology. In 2025 you'd be hard pressed to find any National Government, Political Party, or Ideologically based group who is not using a metric fuckton of AI bots to distribute AIGen content in an attempt to sway elections and opinions.
The IPIE report on this makes it quite plain that at least 80% of elections worldwide had problems with this in 2024.

At this point blaming this solely on "Fascists" is wilful blindness and a clear indicator that someone is either living in a bubble of single-sided information or is an ideologue themselves.