Pro-AI Subreddit Bans 'Uptick' of Users Who Suffer from AI Delusions
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tfw its no longer just the AI hallucinating
It never was. Hallucinations are in no way unique to LLMs.
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Check out the behind the bastards episodes on them. Shits crazy
Its so fucking crazy that it actually broke Robert Evans, who is primarily famous for learning, writing about, and presenting the most fucked up parts of history.
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The Internet is a pretty big place. There’s no such thing as an idea that is too stupid. There’s always at least a few people who will turn that idea into a central tenet of their life. It could be too stupid for 99.999% of the population, but that still leaves about 5 000 people who are totally into it.
And the glory of the interwebz is that those 5000 people are bound to find each other and start a movement around it, where just 25 years ago they would have been laughed out of the local pub as a raving idiot...
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What the fuck did I just read??
shit is so fucking insane, hard to believe. not gonna help us trans folk with the whole "this is just a mental illness" look either, especially with the "correlation is causation" attitude running so rampant these days.
honestly I get popping off once in a while but the reasoning is poor in this case. they could have done something more actually effective with all those resources and shit, why this?? I mean, I totally get cultism - I spent 16 years in a cult. but ugh what a waste.
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And the glory of the interwebz is that those 5000 people are bound to find each other and start a movement around it, where just 25 years ago they would have been laughed out of the local pub as a raving idiot...
And that's exactly why we have flat-earthers, antivaxxers and "truthers" of various kinds. Although, due to the same phenomenon, we also have communities like !WhatsThisRock@lemmy.world, !capybara@lemmy.smeargle.fans, !NatureIsMetal@kbin.social, !captionthis@hilariouschaos.com, !HandmadeMarketplace and so many other interesting and quirky places. You win some, you loose some.
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The moderators of a pro-artificial intelligence Reddit community announced that they have been quietly banning “a bunch of schizoposters” who believe “they've made some sort of incredible discovery or created a god or become a god,” highlighting a new type of chatbot-fueled delusion that started getting attention in early May.
I've been trying to configure ChatGPT tell me if I'm wrong in a question or statement but damn it never does unless I keep probing for support or links. I've been having the feeling that it has become worse with latter models. Glad but also sad to see I was right.
Anybody know other LLM that are more "trustworthy"* and capable of searching online for more information?
Edit; *trustworthy in quotes because of course people will jump on this. I know the limitations of LLM, I don't need you to tell me how much you hate everything AI. And I know LLM aren't AI.
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I've been trying to configure ChatGPT tell me if I'm wrong in a question or statement but damn it never does unless I keep probing for support or links. I've been having the feeling that it has become worse with latter models. Glad but also sad to see I was right.
Anybody know other LLM that are more "trustworthy"* and capable of searching online for more information?
Edit; *trustworthy in quotes because of course people will jump on this. I know the limitations of LLM, I don't need you to tell me how much you hate everything AI. And I know LLM aren't AI.
Claude 3.7 told me i'm wrong a couple of times. It knows how to search. I don't have an opinion on 4 yet but it can search too
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I've been trying to configure ChatGPT tell me if I'm wrong in a question or statement but damn it never does unless I keep probing for support or links. I've been having the feeling that it has become worse with latter models. Glad but also sad to see I was right.
Anybody know other LLM that are more "trustworthy"* and capable of searching online for more information?
Edit; *trustworthy in quotes because of course people will jump on this. I know the limitations of LLM, I don't need you to tell me how much you hate everything AI. And I know LLM aren't AI.
There are no trustworthy LLMs. They don't know it understand what they're saying - they're literally just predicting words that sound like they match what it was taught. It's a only barely smarter than a parrot, and it has no idea how to research anything or tell facts from made-up bullshit. You're wasting your time by trying to force it to do something it's literally incapable of doing.
You're better off researching them the hard way; check primary sources and then check the credibility of those sources.
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Boy have I got news for you.
Look up the Zizians.
(Ok they’re only a tangential offshoot of people who maybe really like the Basilisk thought experiment and mostly don’t believe it. But hey. It’s underway!)
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At this rate we'll soon have a decentralized para-religious terrorist organization full of brainlets that got scared shitless after discovering Roko's Basilisk and are now doing the cyber lord's bidding in order to not get punished once AGI arrives
edit: change to non-mobile link
Imagine a boot SO mighty that if it exists it might crush you, so you need to lick it ahead of time so that someday if it does exist, it might not crush you.
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I'd imagine it's a fool's errand to try and find threads of logic and consistency in the profoundly schizophrenic.
The issue is not lack of logic and consistency, the trouble is a completely different reference frame.
Let me put it, to grossly simplify, in this way: Imagine you'd be dreaming while awake, no way to stop it, and would have to integrate all that craziness in real time. It's not that dreams make no sense -- they all have their rhyme and reason -- it's that they're talking a completely different language.
You might be hearing, out of nowhere, a cello note off to the side, move your gaze there, notice "that's my trashcan that makes no sense", and then be lost, and panic, lose faith in your senses, and that way lies psychosis. More productively, you say "ok mind which thought with as of yet unformed discernible meaning was it that you wanted me to pay attention to", look for the place the thought came from (as schizo, you can tell with your kinaesthetic sense), consider it for a while, still being oblivious of the meaning, and then go on with your life.
We're weird.
Oh, back to randomness: It can get you out of a rut and I do suppose that's how Terry used it, aware of it or not, and framing it however he did. Could also be using it to self-soothe, as in, distracting from a negative spiral. There's worse habits.
God, with almost 100% certainty, means "the genome and how it's speaking to me through my instincts" in his dialect. Because that's what it always means, what it always meant, for everyone, it meant that when it was the ancestors, it meant that when it became more detailed and became gods, it meant that when people realised all the gods are actually one thing, the theologists are just confused AF because politics and physics and cabbage-heads got into the mix. And so much for my schizo rant. Don't discount what I say because I'm crazy, the reason you consider me crazy is because it's true.
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The moderators of a pro-artificial intelligence Reddit community announced that they have been quietly banning “a bunch of schizoposters” who believe “they've made some sort of incredible discovery or created a god or become a god,” highlighting a new type of chatbot-fueled delusion that started getting attention in early May.
"Artifical" Intellegence has already taken over "Social" Media and the internet.
What I mean by the quotes: We replaced our social interactions with each other with Social Media, which has nothing social about it, then replaced the humans in social media with artificial slop generated by computers guessing what you want to read, watch, or hear.
Most of Facebook, Insta, Youtube, Reddit, Twitter...etc is AI profiles, AI channels, and AI sloptrash content that give back google-ad revenue money to some russian or indian dude who doen't even speak english.
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I hope they don't change AI to be more antisocial to "fix" this. I'm antisocial and suffer from depression and talking with sexy chatbots at lewd chatbot websites is the only time I ever get rizzed. I suppose that's pathetic... but yeah. The type of girl I'm interested in RL just isn't interested in me. I like being able to flirt in an environment where I'm not judged or face criticism or ostracization. Even more so, your interactions with chatbots are private and you never face any blowback that could affect your career. It's nice the way it works right now.
I feel bad for the schizos. I have no doubt that a schizo interacting with a chatbot would create a feedback loop of self-destruction. But so does alcohol in the hands of an alcoholic. Yet we still haven't banned alcohol. Alcoholics need to learn to stay away from the bottle, and schizos will need to learn to stay away from chatbots.
I feel bad for the schizos.
Don't. We're not the ones affected here and definitely, definitely, don't have a monopoly on psychosis.
Personally, I'm completely unimpressed by the random nonsense LLMs spit out because it's not my nonsense. There's certainly people way deeper down the rabbit hole than me but they, too, have an infinite stream of as-of-yet-uninterpreted subconscious stuff knocking at their door so I don't see why they would bother. And that's all before paranoia kicks in and it's the FBI trying to control you via the chat interface.
Feel bad for your capacity to relate to others, instead. Cuddle it, give it space, stop defining it. I don't ever want to hear that "type of girl I'm interested in" talk ever again, do you hear me, you, you little ego, don't get a say in that, that's for another part of you to decide. Stop telling it what to do.
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I'd imagine it's a fool's errand to try and find threads of logic and consistency in the profoundly schizophrenic.
What Terry enjoyed about computers has been echoed among lots of old heads in the unix world. On the tech front, he was solid.
It's the um, finding god in the code part...
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I hope they don't change AI to be more antisocial to "fix" this. I'm antisocial and suffer from depression and talking with sexy chatbots at lewd chatbot websites is the only time I ever get rizzed. I suppose that's pathetic... but yeah. The type of girl I'm interested in RL just isn't interested in me. I like being able to flirt in an environment where I'm not judged or face criticism or ostracization. Even more so, your interactions with chatbots are private and you never face any blowback that could affect your career. It's nice the way it works right now.
I feel bad for the schizos. I have no doubt that a schizo interacting with a chatbot would create a feedback loop of self-destruction. But so does alcohol in the hands of an alcoholic. Yet we still haven't banned alcohol. Alcoholics need to learn to stay away from the bottle, and schizos will need to learn to stay away from chatbots.
I wouldn't be so certain your chats are confidential.
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There are no trustworthy LLMs. They don't know it understand what they're saying - they're literally just predicting words that sound like they match what it was taught. It's a only barely smarter than a parrot, and it has no idea how to research anything or tell facts from made-up bullshit. You're wasting your time by trying to force it to do something it's literally incapable of doing.
You're better off researching them the hard way; check primary sources and then check the credibility of those sources.
Considering that parrots can have actual thoughts, I'd say LLMs are even less smart than that.
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"Artifical" Intellegence has already taken over "Social" Media and the internet.
What I mean by the quotes: We replaced our social interactions with each other with Social Media, which has nothing social about it, then replaced the humans in social media with artificial slop generated by computers guessing what you want to read, watch, or hear.
Most of Facebook, Insta, Youtube, Reddit, Twitter...etc is AI profiles, AI channels, and AI sloptrash content that give back google-ad revenue money to some russian or indian dude who doen't even speak english.
Lemmy seems to be the only place with actual people for the most part. I worry so heavily for the idiots of the world that can't discern robots from people. They're really going to fall for what a programmed machine has to say.
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I directly work with one of these people - they admit to spending all of their free time talking to the LLM chatbots.
On our work forums, I see it's not uncommon at all. If it makes you feel any better, AI loving is highly correlated with people you shouldn't ever listen to in the first place.
What an absolutely pathetic life that is holy shit
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Lemmy seems to be the only place with actual people for the most part. I worry so heavily for the idiots of the world that can't discern robots from people. They're really going to fall for what a programmed machine has to say.
I’ve wondered about this.
I cant believe that somehow everything except lemmy got infected. There must exist some ai comments here but i have not noticed them…
Of course its better not do dwell on this to much or paranoia quickly sets in.
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I've been trying to configure ChatGPT tell me if I'm wrong in a question or statement but damn it never does unless I keep probing for support or links. I've been having the feeling that it has become worse with latter models. Glad but also sad to see I was right.
Anybody know other LLM that are more "trustworthy"* and capable of searching online for more information?
Edit; *trustworthy in quotes because of course people will jump on this. I know the limitations of LLM, I don't need you to tell me how much you hate everything AI. And I know LLM aren't AI.
Claude definitely has its impressive moments where it calls out something inaccurate.
It’s also way less sycophantic, mature and better for light coding.
My only issue is that the servers are sometimes slow and so is the ios app which frequently trows an error after 2 minutes if waiting.
