'We're done with Teams': German state hits uninstall on Microsoft
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Hmm, I think this is an Mbin vs Lemmy issue. There are two differences in the URL:
- The broken URL has
%2Cinstead of,. This part does not make a difference, because that resolves to a comma anyway - The broken URL has
=at the very end for some reason. This is what breaks it. Remove that character, and the URL works fine
The weird thing here is that the broken URL only ever shows up on Mbin. Below are a few different links to the comment in which you shared the broken URL. If you view the comment on your Mbin instance, it is indeed broken. But if you view it on this community's Lemmy instance or my home instance, your same comment actually has the working URL. Something about how the post/comment were federated must have messed things up.
Last week I noticed that Lemmy doesn’t like certain characters when posting URLs and silently replaces them - in my case
%20got converted into+which broke my link. I experimented a bit with other „percent encoded“ values and there are more that get replaced.I’m currently collecting a bit of data to open a bug report - links even get changed when put in a codeblock or inline code…
Check this comment out where I used every possible value from
%00to%FFin URLs. The second half (above%80) gets wild
Links werden beim Posten verändert?! - feddit.org
Im Posttext wird bei mir bei jedem Link aus %20 ein +. Passiert das auch in verschiedenen Varianten? Als Link [https://mediathekviewweb.de/#query=%21test+dies+ist+ein+test] Ohne Formatierung: https://mediathekviewweb.de/#query=!test+dies+ist+ein+test [https://mediathekviewweb.de/#query=%21test+dies+ist+ein+test] Inline https://mediathekviewweb.de/#query=%21test+dies+ist+ein+test Codeblock mit Backticks https://mediathekviewweb.de/#query=%21test+dies+ist+ein+test > Zitate https://mediathekviewweb.de/#query=!test+dies+ist+ein+test [https://mediathekviewweb.de/#query=%21test+dies+ist+ein+test] Codeblock mit Einrückung https://mediathekviewweb.de/#query=!test+dies+ist+ein+test [https://mediathekviewweb.de/#query=%21test+dies+ist+ein+test] [https://feddit.org/pictrs/image/4cda01ae-89ee-489a-9a42-41a797a0dbd1.png]
(feddit.org)
- The broken URL has
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I didn't see what exactly they're using for a Teams replacement?
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I didn't see what exactly they're using for a Teams replacement?
Open desk, is the office suite they use, I suppose. Matrix chat, perhaps?
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do France next
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Aren't French authorities quite ahed on FOSS adoption in their platform? I.e. https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/en
It's a cooperation between France, Germany, and more recently The Netherlands.
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And if it sticks, good. But it still has the fundamental problem of needing to re-train all your existing employees AND train new staff who haven't been brought up in that system.
Its on a completely different scale, but plenty of tech youtubers have done the "Let's get rid of all the Adobe in my life". Some succeed. Most tend to come down on some variation of "I can do about 99% of what I used to do in these two or three tools. And these ten things are actually genuinely easier and more performant. But we can't take a month off making videos to get all of our editors up to speed. And this also removes our ability to contract out an edit to someone with the industry standard workflow". And from my professional experience in different fields, that is true. Hiring someone and then spending a week or a month so they can use YOUR tools becomes a huge burden in not too long of a time.
I really hope Germany pulls it off this time and more governments follow. But I also remember all the other times I have read this story.
It's quite easy to use. France is working together with them.
https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/en
The Netherlands have joined last year.
Meanwhile Belgium has bought extra copilot licences and digs itself deeper into the M$ pit.
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Open desk, is the office suite they use, I suppose. Matrix chat, perhaps?
It has an inbuilt messenger based on element, apparently.
Produkt
Modular, flexibel, sicher: Die openDesk Office- und Kollaborationssuite bietet digitale Werkzeuge für die Öffentliche Verwaltung in einer integrierten Umgebung.
openDesk (www.opendesk.eu)
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It has an inbuilt messenger based on element, apparently.
Produkt
Modular, flexibel, sicher: Die openDesk Office- und Kollaborationssuite bietet digitale Werkzeuge für die Öffentliche Verwaltung in einer integrierten Umgebung.
openDesk (www.opendesk.eu)
Jup, Matrix indeed. Thx
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I took a look and its quite complicated to install requiring a very complex kubernates clustwr. Unclear why it is so disparate when something like nextcloud can be single containerised. I feel like this could be simplified for deployment.
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You love to see it.
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I'm stuck with Teams in my job.
I fucking hate it.
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I'm stuck with Teams in my job.
I fucking hate it.
Same. I've come to terms using it in browser mode on Edge, same for Outlook. The desktop applications are so horrific, I uninstalled both. Half the time they wouldn't work or force log me out.
Now I literally have a standalone screen that's showing nothing but Edge with those two tabs on, and all my productive environment is on a nice large screen where I don't have to see the crap.
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I never understood how a huge government can't be bothered to host their own nextcloud or whatever for a couple dozen mil per year instead of spending hundreds of millions per year on onedrive and other commercial crap.
Legal liability for when the service, inevitably, gets breached. If the government hosts it, they're liable. If the vendor hosts it, the vendor is liable. Simple as money matters.
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I get it! It’s a fucking terrible program. At the moment I’ve got two instances of it running, one old and one new. Why the fuck? Why doesn’t all the old things transfer to the new one?
It’s also a joke to maneuver. The different subjects have “hidden” subcategories that aren’t supposed to be hidden but are! So you have two extra clicks to find the folder.. it’s a giant fucking joke that a company the size of MS can’t make this tolerable.
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Yes, but only in Europe, and no Americans are allowed.
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And gamers are looking to SteamOS to replace windows.
SteamOS is not a good desktop distribution, which isn't surprising as it's not supposed to be one. It's specialised for handhelds.
Go install Ubuntu or something, really anything, ideally don't have an Nvidia GPU, install steam, done. SteamOS has no special sauce regarding running games.
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I'm stuck with Teams in my job.
I fucking hate it.
It crashes, it loses things, it has a lousy search function, to automate messaging you need to learn one of the arcane and convoluted MS services because they deprecated the much easier webhooks...
When something fails (and it always does) we just say "Well... it's Teams", and that sums it up.
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I never understood how a huge government can't be bothered to host their own nextcloud or whatever for a couple dozen mil per year instead of spending hundreds of millions per year on onedrive and other commercial crap.
Bribes, I'd venture.
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They have their systems only they use, therefore they can easily make them on Linux or emulate.
Also, a lot of systems are web-based (and therefore automatically multi-platform) these days.
and therefore automatically multi-platform
But not necessarily multibrowser.
Damn those people developing only for Chrome.
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Yes, but: this endeavour comes after/along with the development of a unified "open desk", a replacement solution for the office and collaboration tools from microsoft etc, backed by the federal government. This ensures a base layer of interoperability between offices and makes training probably easier.
I wouldn't count on the federation they've been doing nothing all these years. Schleswig-Holstein law has favoured FLOSS solutions since 2009 ("where technically possible and economical"), and bits and pieces were introduced as early as 2012. ZenDiS exists since 2022, opendesk is based on dPhoenixSuite, work done by Dataport precisely for Schleswig-Holstein, and they're still doing most of the development work. More importantly though I'm not seeing any political commitment on the federal level, the Bundeswehr switching over because they care about stuff doesn't mean that the, what, finance ministry cares. The BND probably also cares but tough luck getting them to confirm or deny anything.
