Proton releases a new app for two-factor authentication
-
Doesn't support republican politicians. Congratulated the anti-big-tech appointment by a republican politician (Trump).
Which then turned out to be not exactly true.
-
2fa only for paying customers, no?
I mean, I pay because it's dirt cheap for tge convenience they offer but still no free 2fasince bitwarden is selfhostable there are public instances like there are lemmy instances and they have free bitwarden premium features the ones i know of is tchncs.de and adminforge.de
-
BitWarden is F(antastic)OSS.
Aegis ia even better
-
since bitwarden is selfhostable there are public instances like there are lemmy instances and they have free bitwarden premium features the ones i know of is tchncs.de and adminforge.de
As if I would use a 3rd party to host my bitwarden data.
Eitger 1st party or selfhost. But some unknown 3rd party? Way too risky.
-
Should be, but not all of them allow you to opt-out of cloud sync.
(And Aegis has amazing backup features like backup after changes to accounts.)
-
Proton does this as well, you can use it completely offline without an account
Can you export accounts in (encrypted) json?
-
Hmm... I'm not sure about having an authenticator app on a desktop computer.
Like you are putting all your eggs in one basket. Password managers, and your emails already go to one place for authentication. Adding an authenticator means if your computer is compromised, a person can have access to more accounts.
I always figured this is why desktop authenticator apps aren't a thing.
No company phone = Me using a desktop app for work related 2FA.
Not my problem.
-
2fa only for paying customers, no?
I mean, I pay because it's dirt cheap for tge convenience they offer but still no free 2faBitwarden authenticator is free for non-paying customers too.
-
Yeah, I also was disappointed that proton wallet was for crypto and not credit cards. Unless someone can recommend an alternative to Google wallet, preferably from F-Droid
Google Wallet is not so much a "wallet" for your cards but a way to link your cards to their own payment service, Google Pay.
Both Apple and Google had a lot of problems convincing banks to accept their respective services, and even then many stores still don't support this payment method. A company with the clout and size of Proton has no chance to get their own service widely accepted.
-
Ehm… you guys know that behind all major VPN companies there’s the isræli government right?
Okay. proceeds to check article
Kape Technologies
This is why you research the VPN provider prior to making your purchase, read their privacy policies, their EULA, their TOS, the companies history.
If it reads like the Bible skip over it.
ProtonVPN, iVPN and Mullvad have no association with this article whatsoever.
No, Proton specifically has no confirmed association, I agree. So I trust them? No.
I see too many signs, too many people recommending it online, too many all-connected services. For me, this is a recipe for disaster and I’m not here to be lied to my face again.Not the first time for the very neutral state
According to a Swiss parliamentary investigation, "Swiss intelligence service were aware of and benefited from the Zug-based firm Crypto AG’s involvement in the US-led spying".
On a related note, we have also had people ask us about Proton Mail’s official position regarding the ongoing Palestinian-Israeli conflict and whether working with an Israeli company means we are taking sides in this conflict. The answer is NO. As a Swiss company, we adhere to a policy of strict neutrality
I don’t know about you guys but this
is enough for me.
-
This is a more welcome addition than that stupid AI chatbot slop machine.
But I would still like to see them release Proton Drive for Linux already.
I wouldn't mind not having a native Linux drive client if they didn't block rsync, which used to work, and now does not. What a stupid decision.
-
Yeah, I also was disappointed that proton wallet was for crypto and not credit cards. Unless someone can recommend an alternative to Google wallet, preferably from F-Droid
The FSF (and RMS himself) wanted an alternative for online payments for ages, without crypto. An anonymous buffer layer between your payment method, like a credit card, and the vendor. I believe something was eventually released but it never took off, because unlike something like a NFC Wallet, vendors would have to natively support GNU's version.
-
Correct. However it's worth noting that passwords are almost always compromised server-side. So 2FA is far more a mitigation of data breaches from the provider, rather than your password manager being breached.
Feels like everyone has forgotten when LastPass was breached, and that was barely three years ago.
Any affected LastPass users storing their 2FA backup codes in with the rest of their login data got a rude awakening.
Anyone who had them separate was at least able to rescue those accounts. But hey do what you like people, I know convenience usually trumps security.
-
Can you export accounts in (encrypted) json?
They do advertise direct export, but I’m not sure if that means encrypted json
-
Doesn't support republican politicians. Congratulated the anti-big-tech appointment by a republican politician (Trump).
Definitely supported the Republicans. It was a red flag to hold opinions like this:
Here is our official response, also available on the Mastodon post in the screenshot: Corporate capture of Dems is real. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation. Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidently has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote. At a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up- JD Vance. By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand. Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost. Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.
He's not wrong about the Democrat party choosing the establishment over the progressive wing, but the idea that he supports the Republicans as being more likely to reign in tech companies is so laughable it's not even funny, and makes you wonder why Andy Yen believes it.
What other commenters have said before though is true: aside from this incident with the CEO, Proton has been careful to stay politically neutral and on message... It damaged their public trust but didn't destroy it.
-
Yeah, I also was disappointed that proton wallet was for crypto and not credit cards. Unless someone can recommend an alternative to Google wallet, preferably from F-Droid
I started using Curve since I swapped to Graphene. Upsides: it's not google and it works fine. Downsides: it's a free as in beer app that (I assume) is selling my data.
I've read that Monzo used to have their own NFC payment app, but it looks like that isn't around anymore and they just integrate with Google Pay now. If anyone knows more about it I would love to hear it.
-
Aegis ia even better
How? BitWarden has great 2FA, but is also a password manager with good integrations, group sharing, etc. Plus when you log in with it, it auto-copies the 2fa to clipboard.
Assuming you've used both, so what does Aegis bring to the table? Wondering if I should try it.
-
2fa only for paying customers, no?
I mean, I pay because it's dirt cheap for tge convenience they offer but still no free 2fa2fa is free
-
The FSF (and RMS himself) wanted an alternative for online payments for ages, without crypto. An anonymous buffer layer between your payment method, like a credit card, and the vendor. I believe something was eventually released but it never took off, because unlike something like a NFC Wallet, vendors would have to natively support GNU's version.
I think you are referring to GNU Taler.
It recently started operating in a kind of open beta in Switzerland https://news.itsfoss.com/gnu-taler-swiss-operations/
-
as above trying to get away from american services, it’s really, youtube, google maps and iphone are only things im stuck with
I wish there was a good alternative to YouTube. I've been meaning to host a Peertube instance but that process is really not as straightforward as it should be if they want the platform to gain widespread adoption
Google Maps has pretty decent alternatives though:
- For simply browsing the map I use OpenStreetMaps on desktop, and Organic Maps on mobile.
- For navigation (by car) I used to use Waze (which is also owned by Google), but I've switched back to good ol' TomTom
As for iPhone.. personally I have a Google Pixel which I'm going to keep using till I can't anymore. After that I'm probably switching to Fairphone. They're a European company and their phones are right up my alley