And Tesla would be fined and sued into oblivion.

I have a Sprinter van with lane assist for cross country travel. As obnoxious as it is 99% of the time, it has come in clutch a few times when I started to get drowsy and drifted off my lane.

If we lived in any sort of reasonable or responsible world then these cars would be banned from public roads all over the globe.

Call me a Luddite but I won't ride in a "self driving" car. I don't even trust lane assist although I've never had a car with that feature.

I think my sweet spot is 2014 for vehicles. It's about 50/50 with the tracking garbage and the "advanced features" on those models but anything past 2015 seems to be fully fly-by-wire and that doesn't sit right with me.

I'm old though and honestly if I bought a 2014 right now and babied it as my non commuter car I could probably keep it until I should give up my keys. You younger people are going to have to work around all this crap.

Drove a few cars with "lane hold" and it's infuriating to have to suddenly correct the car's trajectory at every curve because it misjudges the road line. Some cars are worse than others but it was literally the first thing I disabled every time. I wonder how truck drivers feel about it. Do modern trucks even have this?

I've never had any issue with the lane assist in my Mitsubishi. It's absolutely built as an "assist" and not something that will actually try to take control from you. It's trivial to "overpower" it manually and turn out of your lane without signaling if that's what you want to do, but does a perfectly reasonable job of steering on its own when left to its own devices.

That said, I wouldn't be driving a vehicle new enough to have the feature yet either if I hadn't been rear ended a couple of years ago and had my 2012 Lancer written off.

I have a Sprinter van with lane assist for cross country travel. As obnoxious as it is 99% of the time, it has come in clutch a few times when I started to get drowsy and drifted off my lane.

it has come in clutch a few times when I started to get drowsy and drifted off my lane.

Respect for sharing your mistakes.

I hear you, but a 99% chance of being obnoxious isn't a great review.

I think I'll just stick to not driving when tired.

My 2023 Subaru has lane assist. It was absolutely obnoxious so I turned it off.

So it does move the wheel under your hands? That's just gross to me. I guess maybe I should rent a car with it and give it a shot but I don't think I'll like it.

I rented a Hyundai Elantra. Yes, the wheel will move under your hand. Yes, it has hand detection, which is probably trivial to spoof. When I used it, winter had just ended and lines on the road weren't always clear, so it would occasionally disable itself. Trying to change lanes without signals isn't terrible, but certainly won't happen by accident.

I would by no means rely on this, or recommend relying on it, just like I wouldn't recommend relying on blind spot detection, but they can be handy aids to improve your overall driving, and can help catch your mistakes.

Driving when tired enough to drift out of your lane multiple times?

You shouldn't have a license.

I hear you, but a 99% chance of being obnoxious isn't a great review.

I think I'll just stick to not driving when tired.

Does it pull the wheel when you're trying to change lanes?

I see the blind spot detection on other people's mirrors when I pass them and that looks cool as fuck but what happens the instant it fails? If I'm reliant on it and it breaks one day am I going to mistakenly merge into another driver's right of way?

I suddenly got very tired today when driving, and noticed my car drifting out of lane as I was unfocused, I was far from home, didn't have any snacks or anything.

Luckily I found a place to park soon after, pulled over, and rested for 20 min or so.

Tiredness can come sudden, it doesn't mean you should loose your license as long as you can deal with it in a safe manner.

For sure, but when you are driving cross-country you sometimes do not have a choice because there is nowhere to stop.

Does it pull the wheel when you're trying to change lanes?

I see the blind spot detection on other people's mirrors when I pass them and that looks cool as fuck but what happens the instant it fails? If I'm reliant on it and it breaks one day am I going to mistakenly merge into another driver's right of way?

If it happens to someone multiple times and they treat lane assist as a crutch then they are not safe to drive on the road.

The best part is they followed up with this gem so I know they didn't pull over like you did:

For sure, but when you are driving cross-country you sometimes do not have a choice because there is nowhere to stop.

Call me a Luddite but I won't ride in a "self driving" car. I don't even trust lane assist although I've never had a car with that feature.

I think my sweet spot is 2014 for vehicles. It's about 50/50 with the tracking garbage and the "advanced features" on those models but anything past 2015 seems to be fully fly-by-wire and that doesn't sit right with me.

I'm old though and honestly if I bought a 2014 right now and babied it as my non commuter car I could probably keep it until I should give up my keys. You younger people are going to have to work around all this crap.