I have not found that to be the case.

Try and tell them that your average user cannot, or will not, use the command line , and you'll both get called morons.

Tell you what, I'll prove you right. I think willful ignorance should be a felony. So those who decide they can't learn how to use a computer by typing, deserve all of the corporate ass rape the United States private sector has to offer.

Yep, there it is.

That did not take long at all

"ew, I can't debase myself to the extent of executing a program by typing its name." Okay, Here's your copy of Windows 11. You deserve this.

Windows 11 is nowhere near as terrible as people here make it out to be.

Okay but I've been using Linux for several years and I've never had to use the command line. I have used it a couple times, but it was by choice, not necessity.

I've only ever found the Linux community helpful. I'm not saying there aren't dicks out there (I saw the one in this thread even) but for the most part people are more than willing to help out.

Well you both would be making assumptions about people wouldnt you?

Oh they're out there. Usually the neckbeards who treat new users like they're stupid if they can't do a bash script right off the bat.

Its not terrible, objectively speaking, but as someone who uses it for work - I don't care to use it at home at all. The only Windows instances at home are VMs running W10 LTSC, and they are strictly for specialty software (vehicle diagnostics stuff) or legal reasons (my lawyer requires Adobe Acrobat for PDFs). I have zero physical Windows machines otherwise.

I just disabled all the annoying stuff, uninstalled Onedrive, turned off all the news and stock prices on the lock screen etc.

A bit annoying I had to do that, but whatever.

No its just a common trend I see when I look for answers to questions I have about aspects of Linux. I work in tech and know lots of tech people. Chill is one of the few terms I would use for them hahaha.

Who is this mythical average user I keep hearing about?

I've never had a problem forcing people at work - even those with very limited IT knowledge - to run things from cli in windows.

For years in one place I worked the IT support first line solution was to tell all users to force a gp update from the windows cli. They'd point to a nice little how to guide with screenshots and everything. I don't know if any of the thousands of people working there were the all important average user either though, probably not.

Haha, Don't offer people windows 11 , even in jest. It's clearly the opposite of "being excellent" to them ( rule 3).

Gotta love mods.

I chalk it up to idiots that recommend Arch to new users, then they're so confused they ask questions that most Arch users would think are silly, then everyone gets pissed off.

The folks who show up looking to genuinely learn something, who have a goal to accomplish, I'll gladly help them out. I'll go learn something I don't know yet so I can teach it to them. Willingness to learn is the most respectable thing I can think of. All that "EAUGH Linux isn't user friendly enough" shit is unwillingness to learn. "Why doesn't this perfectly conform to my bad habits?" Because you haven't died in a fire yet. Common mistake for people like you.

Yes.

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1000% they are out there. Thank fucking Satan they don’t dominate certain spaces the way they used to! I always kept a lot of tech at arm’s length because I wasn’t capable of having a knock down drag out fight every time I formed even the mildest of opinion on a feature or something.

I’m sorry to put this so bluntly, but technical people are some of the dumbest human beings on planet earth.

You do not have to use the command line to use most Linux distros. I think it’s a good idea to learn, but it’s no longer a necessity.