Let Google know what you think about their proposed restrictions on sideloading Android apps. - Android developer verification requirements [Feedback Form]
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I don't buy the malware arguement. Most major social apps function like malware (tracking location and anything they can). In the 90s, any app that did that (say to your laptop) would be treated as spyware.
Also the true malware is currently signed and it still reaches millions of people, most of the time downloaded straight from store.
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True.
Linux on Mobile has a poor ecosystem and only works on older phones (older then most Android roms)Have you see FLX1 phone? Based on Debian.
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This is silly. Google doesn't give a single fuck. This decision will make money for key players and that's the end of the conversation.
I dunno, I'm sure there's a part of them that doesn't want to scare off all the free labor they get from the community developers. They are probably legitimately trying to gauge how much of an impact on that this will have. That doesn't mean they are going to stop or change anything, but they probably genuinely care enough to know.
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People use Android to not have such restrictions.
Something like F-Droid (which published its own builds from source) would likely not be possible with such a model.
It's certainly one of the main reasons I moved.
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Have you see FLX1 phone? Based on Debian.
Just looked it up, ane it seems to be $550 with worse specs than ny current phone I paid $130 for
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This is silly. Google doesn't give a single fuck. This decision will make money for key players and that's the end of the conversation.
Doesnt matter.
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Apple requires some developer credentials and notarization for sideloading apps, to prevent known malware. What is the problem with this?
Edit: everyone this is an honest question.
to prevent known malware
Nope
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Apple requires some developer credentials and notarization for sideloading apps, to prevent known malware. What is the problem with this?
Edit: everyone this is an honest question.
Do you think Google won't revoke the signature for apps like revanced or newpipe or send a c&d to the now doxxed devs?
Main reason apple did that is to limit piracy, nsfw apps and track how many installs so they can still bill the developer for that
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Source of feedback form:
https://developer.android.com/developer-verification (bottom of page)
if this policy is implemented. the easiest thing for noobs will be get a Chinese phone without certification from Google https://storage.googleapis.com/play_public/supported_devices.html like huawei (you can get a GMS support with emulator like Gbox)
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Apple requires some developer credentials and notarization for sideloading apps, to prevent known malware. What is the problem with this?
Edit: everyone this is an honest question.
Apple method is terrible too and had to be forced by the EU to allow sideloading so tried to make it as restrictive as possible within the rules. And don't think they bothered to support it outside the EU. So Apple is not the one to use as a defense of restrictions to installation of software om Android.
And I fear malware more from Google Play than F-droid with how they just allow anything and millions of installs give people a false sense of security until it's later revealed it was a malware app. So no I don't buy this security bullshit.
It's about control and data harvesting.
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Source of feedback form:
https://developer.android.com/developer-verification (bottom of page)
I did it and I told them exactly why and what I use and why and hopefully they will take heed. It's not even some freakishly avoid-y reason or anything. I'm not extremist because I know that if I'm going to use a lot of this stuff I have to make compromises because it's not magically going to get better overnight, but also we have to stand up for user freedom so we have some degree of ability to actually use our devices as we wish and install software that we want on our own computer.
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if this policy is implemented. the easiest thing for noobs will be get a Chinese phone without certification from Google https://storage.googleapis.com/play_public/supported_devices.html like huawei (you can get a GMS support with emulator like Gbox)
The problem I see is that the independent app market will not survive this if the audience of "normal" Android devices is gone. Most devs won't bother developing apps that are not available on the play store, so alternative roms are not a solution in most markets.
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This is silly. Google doesn't give a single fuck. This decision will make money for key players and that's the end of the conversation.
You do it for posterity reasons
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Closing the side loading option is a path to antitrust suits, a slap in the face to privacy, a kick in the teeth to independent devs and personal use.
There is zero reason for this other than wanting full control of how I use my own phone and how much money/data google can squeeze out of everyone.
I did not purchase a phone to have it later be functionally broken as features it had have been stripped in the name of 'security'.
A warning message is all that is needed. The current toggle is enough.
We are not toddlers.
There are not possibly enough cases that it warrants such a restrictive policy aside from the stated reasons above.
Give me liberty or give me symbian.
How's that?
Give me liberty or give me
symbianmaemoFTFY
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Closing the side loading option is a path to antitrust suits, a slap in the face to privacy, a kick in the teeth to independent devs and personal use.
There is zero reason for this other than wanting full control of how I use my own phone and how much money/data google can squeeze out of everyone.
I did not purchase a phone to have it later be functionally broken as features it had have been stripped in the name of 'security'.
A warning message is all that is needed. The current toggle is enough.
We are not toddlers.
There are not possibly enough cases that it warrants such a restrictive policy aside from the stated reasons above.
Give me liberty or give me symbian.
How's that?
Symbian had package signature fuckery
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This is silly. Google doesn't give a single fuck. This decision will make money for key players and that's the end of the conversation.
It's very likely that no amount of negative feedback will change anything. Why not waste some of their time anyway? Write to them, call them, spread the word. This is the only thing we can do. Even if it goes through regardless - at the very least we can make it as unpleasant as possible.
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It's very likely that no amount of negative feedback will change anything. Why not waste some of their time anyway? Write to them, call them, spread the word. This is the only thing we can do. Even if it goes through regardless - at the very least we can make it as unpleasant as possible.
Their AI will be looking over all of the responses, not people. No important person at Google’s time will be wasted on this.
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I will transition off Android if this gets deployed, this is unacceptable.
To what exactly?
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Sounds like the thing that will finally get me onto another platform. Sideloading is the only way around most of these companys' draconian restrictions.
What platform you going to go to? iPhones?
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Not a lot currently, but what's needed is for the snowball to start rolling. This means the early adopters will have to make the more difficult decision of choosing "lesser" options wrt. comfort and convenience, compatibility, and bang for your buck. All decisions matter, and it will have long-term effects en masse.
If Windows phone didn’t take off, nothing will. It was so far ahead of its time, and a legit alternative, but developers didn’t want to support a new platform and neither did users.
