Itch.io deindexes NSFW games after becoming the latest target of skittish credit card companies and anti-porn group Collective Shout, catching an award-winning indie and more in the crossfire
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Just pointing out the obvious here, but the problem isn't organizations like Collective Shout. And there has been a rather worrying development of this issue where people seem to focus on these organizations rather than the actual problem.
Payment processing is a utility.
Credit card companies should not be allowed to pick and choose who they allow and who they block. That's the job of the government. Anything illegal can be blocked, but blocking anything legal such as the delisted games, or the Japanese manga sites that visa and MasterCard killed, should count as discriminatory practice and antitrust violation.Japan is on track to force credit card companies to allow all legal transactions indiscriminately, and we need the same thing to happen in the EU and US. Once we have this fixed, organizations will be forced to instead try to outlaw the games, which is a million times harder.
If we bully organizations like collective shout out of existence, new ones will pop up to take its place, and the cycle repeats, but if we regulate credit card companies, we essentially cure the disease.
Actually insane to say that Collective Shout is blameless. Go look at the vile shit their members are spewing. Not only are they demonstrably culpable for this, they're also engaging in hate speech and disinformation and targeted harassment.
The payment situation is also to blame.
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The LGBTQ suppression slippery slope is here...and it didn't even take these fucking fascists an extra week
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Actually insane to say that Collective Shout is blameless. Go look at the vile shit their members are spewing. Not only are they demonstrably culpable for this, they're also engaging in hate speech and disinformation and targeted harassment.
The payment situation is also to blame.
to say that Collective Shout is blameless
Twitter is not, as it turns out, the only place where well articulated sentences get misinterpreted.
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Ironic, considering some of Jesus's best friends were hoes
And he despised the rich. Turns out Christianity today is what it always has been, consolidation of (male) wealth and power. It never really had much to do with the teachings of Jesus
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Actually insane to say that Collective Shout is blameless. Go look at the vile shit their members are spewing. Not only are they demonstrably culpable for this, they're also engaging in hate speech and disinformation and targeted harassment.
The payment situation is also to blame.
I love the mental gymnastics of saying that you’re a feminist and also anti-abortion. The only way a woman gets pregnant is from sperm. And in 99% of cases, that was through the interaction with a man. And it may have not been consensual.
But either way, now said woman is bound to modify her body and life because of her interaction with a man, rather than being able to make her own choice, because you said so and you know what’s best for her. She’s “empowered” to be a good little breeder and produce either men or other breeders because apparently that’s what women are good for when you take away their autonomy, which is really what these groups want. Which, is also a big reason why they hate trans women. Trans women cannot do the only job a woman should have, which is to produce offspring.
They would build such an amazing society! With so many empowered women! Freed from the shackles of being able to think or decide for themselves, ready to fulfill their ultimate dream of producing offspring, taking care of offspring, and then dying.
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Christ card companies are evil. We need alternatives
Christ card
Ironically, yes, at this point
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Ironic, considering some of Jesus's best friends were hoes
What's Jesus have to do with Christianity? Christianity has always been Paul's religion, not Jesus'.
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The LGBTQ suppression slippery slope is here...and it didn't even take these fucking fascists an extra week
Yeah, Mass Effect, Witcher, and Cyberpunk 2077 are just a few games among many that these groups would love to target and take down for giving lgbtq options. Could forsee a future where games have to start self censoring themselves to try to avoid demonetization. Best case scenario is they only censor in certain countries.
So those who think it is just attacking porn games and don't care because they play normal games will be in for a rude awakening if these groups get their way.
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Yeah, Mass Effect, Witcher, and Cyberpunk 2077 are just a few games among many that these groups would love to target and take down for giving lgbtq options. Could forsee a future where games have to start self censoring themselves to try to avoid demonetization. Best case scenario is they only censor in certain countries.
So those who think it is just attacking porn games and don't care because they play normal games will be in for a rude awakening if these groups get their way.
steam and itch capitulated here because indy games are small potatoes. the calculation changes if they start going after $70 AAA titles selling millions of copies.
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Payment processors shouldn't have this kind of power, it's insane.
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Yeah, Mass Effect, Witcher, and Cyberpunk 2077 are just a few games among many that these groups would love to target and take down for giving lgbtq options. Could forsee a future where games have to start self censoring themselves to try to avoid demonetization. Best case scenario is they only censor in certain countries.
So those who think it is just attacking porn games and don't care because they play normal games will be in for a rude awakening if these groups get their way.
Funny enough I have DRM free rips of these from my steam account.
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Always is the same thing. Why USA decides in other countries? Is Itchio international, right?
Collective Shout is Australian.
And banks are bigger than nations at this point, what they say goes.
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Lol what are you people ever going to do.
You can't just wait until you're mad to do something. It takes years building networks and getting everyone on board.
Totally doable if people had a bit of common sense but the reason why the right are kicking ass and doing this stuff is because people now are pretty brain washed and can't figure out how most of the stuff that they fight for are also the things they need to stop in order to prevent this stuff. But because they will never figure that out, you'll never get anywhere.
Just an example, we should have recognized the same tools that let content creators get paid was going to be the same tools that politicians would use to manipulate and lie to people popularising fascism again. Thanks PewDiePie
Tbh, I didnt know this group exists until this happened. So sometimes an event happens, you get mad, and you do something about it. Thats usually how most people come to action.
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Great great so what's the bloody point in itch now then?
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steam and itch capitulated here because indy games are small potatoes. the calculation changes if they start going after $70 AAA titles selling millions of copies.
They don't need to. AAA developers will start backing down on their own because they don't want to risk the confrontation.
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Start a new site and make them free to troll the card agencies.
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What's Pangaea got to do with this?
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I love the mental gymnastics of saying that you’re a feminist and also anti-abortion. The only way a woman gets pregnant is from sperm. And in 99% of cases, that was through the interaction with a man. And it may have not been consensual.
But either way, now said woman is bound to modify her body and life because of her interaction with a man, rather than being able to make her own choice, because you said so and you know what’s best for her. She’s “empowered” to be a good little breeder and produce either men or other breeders because apparently that’s what women are good for when you take away their autonomy, which is really what these groups want. Which, is also a big reason why they hate trans women. Trans women cannot do the only job a woman should have, which is to produce offspring.
They would build such an amazing society! With so many empowered women! Freed from the shackles of being able to think or decide for themselves, ready to fulfill their ultimate dream of producing offspring, taking care of offspring, and then dying.
its why they are called radical feminists
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its why they are called radical feminists
Except
Radical feminism** is a perspective within feminism that calls for a radical re-ordering of society in which male supremacy is eliminated in all social and economic contexts
But by making sure that women carry children to term whether or not they want to, it’s basically male run, they haven’t said anything about male/female equality.
It’s not the right terminology. Radical feminism has its own flaws, but this is Christian fundamentalism, nothing more, no matter how they label it.
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Fuck that. They can collectively shout into this asshole. All we gotta do is start a counter movement. Which I guarantee will be easier to grow than Collective Prudes.
We do have this petition for now link
