What does this even mean? Are you claiming all cities had railroad and public transportation hubs prior to cars being invented? I'm brainwashed because I don't believe you can just seize private property and demolish tons of homes and businesses to build more efficient infrastructure in every moderate to large city in the country? Prior to cars existing, most cities were tiny and people didn't commute 50 miles for work every day.

Can you point to the cities elsewhere where this transformation has occurred or where this already existed outside of maybe a handful of examples on the entire planet?

Trains?! For last mile?!
Trams, sure, smaller buses that run more often too. More routes.
Bicycles et al so long as they pay insurance, have a plate and know the traffic rules like everyone else - and preferably put them in their own lanes when possible.
Walking... if you have time and physical ability, but who cares about that, right? It's so cool and eco-friendly to say "just walk 20 minutes".

It's still bad.

My old commute was a 25-30 minute drive. For a while though, I had to do it by public transport.

I'd be walking for less than 10 minutes because both my house and my work were close to the train station. The rest of it was on 4 different trains, but all within one metropolitan area. The changes were no more than 5 minutes each, pretty good really. However, the number of stops and the number of changes killed any progress. The end result was that it took 1h45m to 2h.

Changing a 8hr + 2x30m day into an 8hr + 2x2h day is a significant change in lifestyle. Losing 3hr day means you don't enjoy your evenings, you don't socialise, and life is only work. It's miserable.

On a different job I worked at I could get there with just 1 train. That was about 35 minute drive or 55 minutes by train once you included the walk (again about 10-15 minutes total). Even with that you're asking yourself "Why am I not driving?".

Bicycle insurance and plates? Why? That makes zero sense. We have these for cars because cars are dangerous, not just for funsies. Bicycles don't pose the same danger.

Walking... if you have time and physical ability, but who cares about that, right? It's so cool and eco-friendly to say "just walk 20 minutes".

Yeah it is cool and eco-friendly to walk 20 minutes (assuming one is able-bodied, as you mention.)

Bicycles do pose similar dangers. A cyclists running a red light it the typical example. Forces someone else to swerve and hit a post then what?

The technology isn't great, but rather than implement it, you want us to expect humans to be great.

Cyclists on the whole break traffic laws a lot less than motorists.

Also, I love how your only example of "the dangers of cyclists" involves someone in a car having to react to a cyclist. If everyone is cycling, speeds are low enough to react and typically avoid collisions even if a potential conflict arises. The "forces someone to swerve" phenomenon mostly happens at the speed of motor vehicles.

I wouldn't call paying attention while you hurdle down a strip of pavement at 60mph in a 2 ton metal cage being "great", id call it the minimum. And I'm not saying don't implement it, I'm just saying it's absurd to act like forcing it in every car is gonna fix the problem. It's just gonna make vehicles less affordable and add failure points.

It's clearly not the minimum. The minimum is what we have today. It would be great if they act as you say.

so you want to ruin childhood by placing pointless restrictions on bikes?

I assume this is London.

And that's fine, the train commutes were not for your specific needs. Weird that you had to switch three times to get to your destination, including the walks.

But this is hardly the norm.

If you want to have counter-anecdotal evidence presented, my daily commute used to be 5 metro stops worth 9 minutes of ride and 5 minutes of walking (in total). By car it was about the same, except for the added inconvenience of finding and paying for parking. This was Budapest.

Then there was 15 minutes of train coupled with 25 minutes of walking, 20 to the train station at a brisk pace and then another 5 to the office through the underground maze. By car it'd have been 15 minutes, not counting traffic. Which there always was. Because this was Toronto, the home of "just one more lane, bro". So in total it was more like 40.

My current commute is 20-40 minutes by a single bus. Only ~2.5km. It'd be the same by car, because the route is entirely at the whims of the traffic.

However it doesn't matter, because I also bike, and it's my preferred mode of transportation. Biking in cities that do have minimal infra (such as well placed arteries) and culture for it, as in driving lessons focus on awareness and there is no us vs them mentality, is like IRL cheat code to commuting. You are faster than transit and traffic, you get some well needed exercise and de-stress time. And you get to exactly from where you leave from to where you want to go to, all while saving a dime.

Obviously biking is not for everyone. But if a fat dude with asthma in his late forties with two young children can do it, the barrier for entry doesn't seem that steep.

Mountains of shame looking for someone to blame, yet taking away our autonomy is the game.

Mark Rober of YouTube recently did a video demonstrating how bad tesla sensors are.

Riiight, childhood's defined by riding bicycles and not doing so would ruin it... uh-huh.
Kids can ride them.all they want in parks and bike lanes, but you want them on the street alongside those dangerous cars? They might have a serious accident... now that would ruin their childhood.

Grownups can ride on roads (if there's no bike lane available) provided the vehicle has a plate and is insured, like any other vehicle. The driver should have the basics of road safety and rules, as any other driver.

Your think of the children take is kinda lame, especially considering most kids these days care more about game consoles that bicycles (which is bad imho).

Cyclists on the whole break traffic laws a lot less than motorists.

That's utter bullshit, I see them running lights all the time. And riding in groups, clogging the whole road, like they're on the freakin' tour de France.

You should know that it doesn't take "motor vehicle speeds" to cause a (serious) accident. And I suspect you do.

I currently live in a place where there aren't sidewalks for more than 80% of the roads (heck I've lives in a place that had two roads with sidewalks and only 4 with pavement) treating roads as inherently unsafe is fair only in the context of stupidly large cities. There are still a bunch of cities that have dirt (not gravel) roads and they suit the needs because if there aren't hundreds of people needing to use a road it doesn't need to be able to handle dozens of cars.

I wasn't talking about people on group rides, I'm talking about people using bikes as a means of transportation. I agree that people in group rides can sometimes be bothersome road users.

Red lights and stop signs are designed for cars and it's honestly stupid to expect cyclists to treat them the same way. Studies have shown that treating stops as yields when on a bike is safer for all road users.

You should know that it doesn't take "motor vehicle speeds" to cause a (serious) accident.

That's not what I said. I was pointing out how your "swerve into a post because a cyclist ran a red light" is a dangerous situation made possible only by the presence of cars.

Red lights and stop signs are designed for cars and it's honestly stupid to expect cyclists to treat them the same way.

About time you should your zealotry. Or trolling.

made possible only by the presence of cars.

Cars on roads? Oh no! Yeah I'll go with trolling.

Cheers.

Doesn't even need to be dense fog. The other day I saw a video of a Tesla (on newest firmware, mind you) drove off the road into a tree, in broad daylight, with no visual impairments to the sensors. It's not ready for any kind of driving, let alone fully automated, not to mention that it's only really trained on American roads

Well that's why I said we have a bunch of steering wheel holders not drivers. The minimum u can do to drive is pay attention to what your ripping in your 2 ton death machine most of the people on the road today should NOT be driving as they are doing less than the minimum.