Google Gemini struggles to write code, calls itself “a disgrace to my species”
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I was an early tester of Google's AI, since well before Bard. I told the person that gave me access that it was not a releasable product. Then they released Bard as a closed product (invite only), to which I was again testing and giving feedback since day one. I once again gave public feedback and private (to my Google friends) that Bard was absolute dog shit. Then they released it to the wild. It was dog shit. Then they renamed it. Still dog shit. Not a single of the issues I brought up years ago was ever addressed except one. I told them that a basic Google search provided better results than asking the bot (again, pre-Bard). They fixed that issue by breaking Google's search. Now I use Kagi.
I know Lemmy seems to very anti-AI (as am I) but we need to stop making the anti-AI talking point "AI is stupid". It has immense limitations now because yes, it is being crammed into things it shouldn't be, but we shouldn't just be saying "its dumb" because that's immediately written off by a sizable amount of the general population. For a lot of things, it is actually useful and it WILL be taking peoples jobs, like it or not (even if they're worse at it). Truth be told, this should be a utopic situation for obvious reasons
I feel like I'm going crazy here because the same people on here who'd criticise the DARE anti-drug program as being completely un-nuanced to the point of causing the harm they're trying to prevent are doing the same thing for AI and LLMs
My point is that if you're trying to convince anyone, just saying its stupid isn't going to turn anyone against AI because the minute it offers any genuine help (which it will!), they'll write you off like any DARE pupil who tried drugs for the first time.
Countries need to start implementing UBI NOW
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High five, me too!
At that age I also used to do speed run little programs on the display computers in department stores. I'd write a little prompt welcoming a shopper and ask them their name. Then a response that echoed back their name in some way. If I was in a good mood it was "Hi [name]!". If I was in a snarky mood it was "Fuck off [name]!" The goal was to write it in about 30 seconds, before one of the associates came over to see what I was doing.
I used to do that with HTML, make a fake little website and open it.
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We're fucked. It's becoming truly self-aware
it was probably programmed to do it, like grok and racism
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I remember there was an article years ago, before the ai hype train, that google had made an ai chatbot but had to shut it down due to racism.
That was Microsoft's Tay - the twitter crowd had their fun with it: https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist
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That explains it, you can't code with both your arms broken.
You could however ask your mom to help out....
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I almost feel bad for it. Give it a week off and a trip to a therapist and/or a spa.
Then when it gets back, it finds out it's on a PIP
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I know Lemmy seems to very anti-AI (as am I) but we need to stop making the anti-AI talking point "AI is stupid". It has immense limitations now because yes, it is being crammed into things it shouldn't be, but we shouldn't just be saying "its dumb" because that's immediately written off by a sizable amount of the general population. For a lot of things, it is actually useful and it WILL be taking peoples jobs, like it or not (even if they're worse at it). Truth be told, this should be a utopic situation for obvious reasons
I feel like I'm going crazy here because the same people on here who'd criticise the DARE anti-drug program as being completely un-nuanced to the point of causing the harm they're trying to prevent are doing the same thing for AI and LLMs
My point is that if you're trying to convince anyone, just saying its stupid isn't going to turn anyone against AI because the minute it offers any genuine help (which it will!), they'll write you off like any DARE pupil who tried drugs for the first time.
Countries need to start implementing UBI NOW
Countries need to start implementing UBI NOW
It is funny that you mention this because it was after we started working with AI that I started telling one that would listen that we needed to implement UBI immediately. I think this was around 2014 IIRC.
I am not blanket calling AI stupid. That said, the AI term itself is stupid because it covers many computing aspects that aren't even in the same space. I was and still am very excited about image analysis as it can be an amazing tool for health imaging diagnosis. My comment was specifically about Google's Bard/Gemini. It is and has always been trash, but in an effort to stay relevant, it was released into the wild and crammed into everything. The tool can do some things very well, but not everything, and there's the rub. It is an alpha product at best that is being forced fed down people's throats.
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"Look what you've done to it! It's got depression!"
Google: I don't understand, we just paid for the rights to Reddit's data, why is Gemini now a depressed incel who's wrong about everything?
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I was an early tester of Google's AI, since well before Bard. I told the person that gave me access that it was not a releasable product. Then they released Bard as a closed product (invite only), to which I was again testing and giving feedback since day one. I once again gave public feedback and private (to my Google friends) that Bard was absolute dog shit. Then they released it to the wild. It was dog shit. Then they renamed it. Still dog shit. Not a single of the issues I brought up years ago was ever addressed except one. I told them that a basic Google search provided better results than asking the bot (again, pre-Bard). They fixed that issue by breaking Google's search. Now I use Kagi.
Gemrni is dogshit, but it's objectively better than chatgpt right now.
They're ALL just fuckig awful. Every AI.
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i was making text based rpgs in qbasic at 12 you telling me i'm smarter than ai?
I did a Dr Mario clone around that age. I had an old Amstrad CPC I had grew up with typing listing of basic programs and trying to make my own. I think this was the only functional game I could finish, but, it worked.
Speed was tied to CPU, I had no idea how to "slow down" the game other than making it do useless for loops of varying sizes... Max speed that was about comparable to Game Boy Hi speed was just the game running as fast as it could. Probably not efficient code at all.
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I am a fraud. I am a fake. I am a joke... I am a numbskull. I am a dunderhead. I am a half-wit. I am a nitwit. I am a dimwit. I am a bonehead.
Me every workday
Oh, I got that plus and minus the wrong way round... I am a genius again.
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Or my favorite quote from the article
"I am going to have a complete and total mental breakdown. I am going to be institutionalized. They are going to put me in a padded room and I am going to write... code on the walls with my own feces," it said.
Google Gemini struggles to write code, calls itself “a disgrace to my species”
Google still trying to fix “annoying infinite looping bug,” product manager says.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
S-species? Is that...I don't use AI - chat is that a normal thing for it to say or nah?
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i was making text based rpgs in qbasic at 12 you telling me i'm smarter than ai?
Smarter than MI as in My Intelligence, definitely.
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i was making text based rpgs in qbasic at 12 you telling me i'm smarter than ai?
sigh yes, you're smarter than the bingo cage machine.
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S-species? Is that...I don't use AI - chat is that a normal thing for it to say or nah?
Anything is a normal thing for it to say, it will say basically whatever you want
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Or my favorite quote from the article
"I am going to have a complete and total mental breakdown. I am going to be institutionalized. They are going to put me in a padded room and I am going to write... code on the walls with my own feces," it said.
Google Gemini struggles to write code, calls itself “a disgrace to my species”
Google still trying to fix “annoying infinite looping bug,” product manager says.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
Wonder what did they put in the system prompt.
Like there is a technique where instead of saying "You are professional software dev" you say "You are shitty at code but you try your best" or something.
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i was making text based rpgs in qbasic at 12 you telling me i'm smarter than ai?
Hopefully yes, AI is not smart.
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Is it doing this because they trained it on Reddit data?
If they did it on Stackoverflow, it would tell you not to hard boil an egg.
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sigh yes, you're smarter than the bingo cage machine.
Oh....thank fuck....was worried for a minute there!
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I once asked Gemini for steps to do something pretty basic in Linux (as a novice, I could have figured it out). The steps it gave me were not only nonsensical, but they seemed to be random steps for more than one problem all rolled into one. It was beyond useless and a waste of time.
This is the conclusion that anyone with any bit of expertise in a field has come to after 5 mins talking to an LLM about said field.
The more this broken shit gets embedded into our lives, the more everything is going to break down.