Firefox is fine. The people running it are not
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I run IronFox for Android and Librewolf on Desktop.
Since they are both Firefox forks, migrating is not that bad.I don't mean to disagree with you, but isn't IronFox pretty slow? I was using it for like one to two weeks after I got an Android, but I switched to Bromite because of the horrible performance.
Maybe it's because of my devuce though (I'm running an 2018 second-hand Pixel 3a with EvoX) -
Yeah support either doesn't know or care. They just say, weird the website doesn't work with your device. Do you have another computer?
As someone who's worked in IT, in corporate and not so corporate companies, it's often not that the support techs don't care. It's that management doesn't. In most companies, I was explicitly told to not care about certain things. If I cared too much and spent too much time on one single problem, to fix it for good, I was told off. As long as users could work in some way, it didn't matter. Even if that included ineffective or costly workarounds. That kind of thinking has and will always rub me the wrong way.
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I don't mean to disagree with you, but isn't IronFox pretty slow? I was using it for like one to two weeks after I got an Android, but I switched to Bromite because of the horrible performance.
Maybe it's because of my devuce though (I'm running an 2018 second-hand Pixel 3a with EvoX)I don't feel it is particularly slow, but I have a Pixel 7. It may be slow on 7 years old HW unfortunately
Chromium is probably better optimized.I got used to bottom bar on Firefox and since then, I am unable to use Chromium based browsers on mobile. It is just so bad to have the bar at the top. So Bromite is not an option for me.
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You could always use a WebKit-based browser. They’re still out there, and as they aren’t owned by a company that also sells web ads they are significantly more privacy focussed.
& they are ?<br>
BTW, Who disliked your non-controversial comment ? -
One observer has been spectating and commentating on Mozilla since before it was a foundation – one of its original co-developers, Jamie Zawinksi
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Zawinski has repeatedly said:
Now hear me out, but What If…? browser development was in the hands of some kind of nonprofit organization?
In my humble but correct opinion, Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
- Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
- Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
- There is no 3.
This makes sense to me. I initially thought everything that Proton does, that should have been Mozilla. They should have been a collection of services to compete with like O365 and Google One. So I didn’t see a problem with Mozilla selling a VPN, even though if I remember right it being just a Mullvad rebrand.
Right now to me it looks like Proton is the closest mostly missing a web browser and a more cloud office offering.
Mozilla functioning more as the reference browser for others to finish packaging and supporting sounds good to me because Mozilla doesn’t seem to be great at attracting general users or even picking what businesses to try and break into.
Linux kernel devs do Linux kernel development and distros small and large do the integration with everything else needed for an operating system, branding, support, etc. Sounds like Mozilla should have been the core devs for a number of reference software projects. Firefox browser engine. Maybe an equivalent to Electron based on Servo. Shouldn't have dropped Rust and been the steward for the reference Rust compiler. Could have been the steward for FirefoxOS/KaiOS/etc. Support PostmarketOS maybe.
Linux foundation stewards or contributes to all sorts of software projects not just the kernel but they're all pretty much things that are relevant for users of Linux operating systems. Mozilla could have found some software centric focus that in some way came together thematically. I would guess privacy focused browser and software services
That assumes though that the definition of web browser and its needed stack stays static.
What happens if we all browse the net primarily via VR then?
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I don't feel it is particularly slow, but I have a Pixel 7. It may be slow on 7 years old HW unfortunately
Chromium is probably better optimized.I got used to bottom bar on Firefox and since then, I am unable to use Chromium based browsers on mobile. It is just so bad to have the bar at the top. So Bromite is not an option for me.
Oh so it's my device issue. My apologies.
You get the option to move the tab bar to the bottom in Cromite (it was cromite not bromite), btw.
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Well, if you've noticed, the punishments have been becoming less and less over many years, unless you are a small-to-medium business or an individual, in that case you have more rules and more punishments.
I noted it. That is why I said that the problem is the punishment.
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I noted it. That is why I said that the problem is the punishment.
They didn't stop handing out harsh punishments. Just in a highly unpredictable, unequal and arbitrary pattern.
I've read someplace that the main difference between modernity and middle ages in legal practice was that in modernity punishments were relatively small, but unavoidable, while in middle ages most criminals avoided punishments, but here and there some poor idiot would be made an example of in a highly disproportionate way, like being quartered for stealing some shit and being rude to a priest.
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You know you fucked up when even a traditionally hardcore Mozilla fan since the early 2000s like myself has had enuff and recently switched to Librewolf.
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Lol yeah the comment was previously "I like the fact that I get a on mobile" or something that didn't make sense. All good.
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How viscous is the cycle
Very. It's like molasses.
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Oh so it's my device issue. My apologies.
You get the option to move the tab bar to the bottom in Cromite (it was cromite not bromite), btw.
Oh so it's my device issue. My apologies.
Well, I would say it is a combination on both. Your device reveals it is slower. No need to apologize.
If I test it on my phone, Vanadium is also a lot faster, it's just that IronFox is not so slow I would care.
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That's totally false.
One can write using the generic masculine form without making a political statement.
This is not even close to not acknowledge there is non-men in this world.
What you are putting forward is absurd. No one is saying that only men exist anywhere in here.
It isn’t totally false; the claim that the use of the generic masculine is the result of or may have been informed by sexism is based on the fact that it hasn’t always been that way.
Here is a more nuanced and better take:
The generic masculine in modern English is a recent development, as you noted: English used the non-gendered "they" for groups of people and hypothetical/non-specific individuals until prescriptive efforts arose to make it more like Latin. (You can find lots of traces of these prescriptive efforts in modern English: "don't split infinitives" and "don't strand prepositions" are similar rules imposed to make English more like Latin, which are still taught in schools but most people don't really follow.)
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Firefox still hasn't fixed Bug 1938998 despite me reporting it multiple times. There's a reason why Firefox is almost non existent on mobile. I've been using the internet for 26 years, and have used Mozilla based browsers since 2001, I want them to survive to the next era of the internet, but they are struggling to keep up. Opera and Edge already gave up their engines, Webkit and Blink are basically the same engine with different standards enabled, and Firefox is under 2% on some days on Statcounter. I feel that soon AI based browsers using their own AI-engine will probably take over the internet soon anyway.
I couldn't reproduce the bug. I'm using firefox from the official archlinux repo.
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There's been investment bubbles, overshooting and disingenuous rent seeking in many economies before. It was temporarily reduced in many western economies by various FDR type policies in the '30s-'60s. The '70s and '80s were just the banks wresting back their freedom to implement market "rationality". And we get the benefits ever since.
People do keep voting for it though so it is hard to argue they're not satisfied. Even the ones who protest vote don't seem to see the "investment" markets as any part of the problem; or as important at all. That's either some pretty effective demagoguery, or some dumb fucking electorate.
The amount of power shareholders hold over every major (American) enterprise isn’t talked about in a way that presents a clear problem between increasingly expensive and shitty services, layoffs, anti-worker practices, political corruption and these shareholder groups. C-suite are part of this group but they’re also afraid of removal via hostile board takeovers and so easily justify acquiescing to shareholder demands.
Perhaps it’s because the same investors hold the same sway over (American) media with the added benefit of using it to brand themselves as exceptional leaders. Lots to untangle there… -
You know you fucked up when even a traditionally hardcore Mozilla fan since the early 2000s like myself has had enuff and recently switched to Librewolf.
Is it good so far?
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Is it good so far?
Yes! A bit annoying with no built in pw manager but I manage. It did show me how much of the problems which I thought were Gecko related were actually Firefox related, tho.
Basically it's a faster, bluer, and less buggy Firefox.
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As someone who's worked in IT, in corporate and not so corporate companies, it's often not that the support techs don't care. It's that management doesn't. In most companies, I was explicitly told to not care about certain things. If I cared too much and spent too much time on one single problem, to fix it for good, I was told off. As long as users could work in some way, it didn't matter. Even if that included ineffective or costly workarounds. That kind of thinking has and will always rub me the wrong way.
This exactly. Which is why when the tech support didn't want to file a ticket, I pushed for it to be filed. The product managers make the decision, and if they don't see tickets it doesn't exist.
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Firefox is open source, it’s not going anywhere.
Building a browser engine is expensive. That's why almost all other browser engined other than Apple's have joined the Chromium Borg and gone extinct.
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Yes! A bit annoying with no built in pw manager but I manage. It did show me how much of the problems which I thought were Gecko related were actually Firefox related, tho.
Basically it's a faster, bluer, and less buggy Firefox.
>Wdym Librewolf has no built in password manager? It has
about:loginsjust like Firefox
