Microsoft buys more than a billion dollars’ worth of excrement, including human poop, to clean up its AI mess — company will pump waste underground to offset AI carbon emissions
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Treated waste water sludge is very commonly used here in Sweden albeit using anaerobic digestion rather than regular composting. High temperature composting would kill any pathogens so you can absolutely get permission to use a composting waste system in small scales. For larger scale waste treatment it is with anaerobic digestion, as mentioned.
The captured methane is typically used for fuel, e.g., in public transport.
As far as I know the sludge used for fertilizer needs to be certified under something called REVAQ. Some controversy does exist surrounding safe levels of the various harmful substances and perhaps PFAS in particular.
Just gotta lie on the questioner:
Has any PFOAS filled American pooped on this toilet in the past process cycle?
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In the eyes of the board of directors, sure .
Plantings a billion worth of trees would probably have been too greenTechnically it's more common to pay investment firms with forest land to not cut down the trees they weren't going to cut down to begin with.
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Apart from the questionable practice of buying CO2 credits (or whatever the practice is called), pumping shit underground does not seem like the best way to save the ecosphere. It could've produced energy and/or useful products in various ways but oh no, that would have been too expensive.
This prevents it from being dumped at a waste disposal site, where it would eventually decompose and release carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
This is the only reason this practice is deemed carbon-emission-friendly. Color me skeptical.
My first thought was...how is this a good thing, we get a lot of our water from ground water...and now we're pumping toxic shit into the ground. The fuck
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to offset AI carbon emissions
Does it actually do that?
No. Carbon offsetting is a scam and does not do shit for the environment.
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My first thought was...how is this a good thing, we get a lot of our water from ground water...and now we're pumping toxic shit into the ground. The fuck
Devil's advocate says: 5000 ft is probably below groundwater level. But tbh idk. Hell, they could even use spent oil reservoirs.
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Just gotta lie on the questioner:
Has any PFOAS filled American pooped on this toilet in the past process cycle?
That's a trap question, we're all PFOAS filled.
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Engineer here. We arent talking about directly tossing it on fields. We are talking about having it be anaerobically fermented at high temperatures for about 30 days, with the biogas captured and used for energy.
the new thing to do then is burn the remains and recover the phosphate from the ashes, where certainly no biological threat remains
These type of plants are currently built on many larger wastewater treatment plants in Europe
I'm curious how much phosphate we would be able to capture with this method?
I know it is a critical resource we are flushing away daily and -SHOULD- be doing this. Just like peak oil there is a concept of peak phosphorous.
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Not to forget: It contains a ton of medicine as well. If you want to have antibiotics in your salad, use human waste as fertilizers.
Probably mucroplastics too?
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Pathogens are less of a problem, they die off before they cannot infect a plant. But chemicals from medication and contraceptives, as well as heavy metals, are.
less about infection and more environmental. some people don't wash their produce and get sick because of it.
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Can't make this shit up.
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Greenwashing is a fraud.
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Fight shit with shit.
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I'm curious how much phosphate we would be able to capture with this method?
I know it is a critical resource we are flushing away daily and -SHOULD- be doing this. Just like peak oil there is a concept of peak phosphorous.
In the EU recovering phosphor from wastewater could cover about one third of the EU countries total phosphor demands.
This is why the EU made tge strategic decision to have such recovery systems developed and built.
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Meanwhile I’m out here pooping for free like a chump!
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"To reach the golden temple you and your companions must first pass through the vast Caverns of Corruption."
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so the AI stuff causes too much CO2, instead of fixing their own hardware, the best they could do is to offset that CO2 amount by burying shit?
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How many turds can you buy for a billion dollars. . ?
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Damn from that photo it looks like some people have a seriously high fiber diet.
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so the AI stuff causes too much CO2, instead of fixing their own hardware, the best they could do is to offset that CO2 amount by burying shit?
Yes, burying fertilizer traps biomass CO2 and then they can use that as carbon credit equivalent to claim CO² neutrality.
Of course, there's a reason why fertilizer is an inexpensive source of fixated carbon biomass and
this means all fertilizer will increase in price by the amount value of it's CO2 carbon credit equivalentThen maybe the buried fertilizer will become so valuable that it can be dug out and sold as fertilizer again.
I don't see any problems with this plan !
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Devil's advocate says: 5000 ft is probably below groundwater level. But tbh idk. Hell, they could even use spent oil reservoirs.
use spent oil reservoirs
Ok, that lead to some giggles thinking about some company drilling in the future thinking they were about to hit a strangely untapped oil field.
Add a hundred years of methane pressure build up and that could be really interesting gusher.
