Cloudflare wants Google to change its AI search crawling. Google likely won’t.
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I mean, with a company as large as cloudflare. I think they could /easily/ strong-arm this move by making blocking google crawlers a default setting on websites. The amount of traffic drop alone from that would make google think twice about the whole ordeal. And people who care about the google search indexers can turn them on again which will allow indexing again. but a default block would cause a lot of disruption google side and many people I don't think would go in and fix the setting till later on down the road.
I disagree. Searches are not googles main focus these days. Blocking their crawlers will just make the AI searches better - exactly what google want
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I mean, with a company as large as cloudflare. I think they could /easily/ strong-arm this move by making blocking google crawlers a default setting on websites. The amount of traffic drop alone from that would make google think twice about the whole ordeal. And people who care about the google search indexers can turn them on again which will allow indexing again. but a default block would cause a lot of disruption google side and many people I don't think would go in and fix the setting till later on down the road.
Exactly. It's not like google is the only indexer out there. And if this cuts into their search dominance, so much the better.
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There seems to be a line, so far as I can tell. If everything you need sits on the free tier, they're really good (well tbh their R2 storage is reasonably priced too). But once you stray into needing a paid tier, it apparently (I'm not there) quickly gets expensive as you're lured into every higher tiers.
But yes, in general I don't mind cloudflare so much and do use their free (and R2 paid) services.
They have not given me any reason to hate them which is a win in my books. Apple was my favourite but their policy of region specific features is getting annoying.
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If I had to choose my favourite corporation, it would be Cloudflare. They at least do something good.
You may want to read: https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-website
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It would be fine if it was just "lured", but this made me very sceptical of cloudflare: https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-website
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You may want to read: https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-website
I still think they are good. Isolated incidents like this are going to happen when you are doing business at such scales.
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I still think they are good. Isolated incidents like this are going to happen when you are doing business at such scales.
This did not sound like an isolated incident at all. You don't get sales responding to a legal/engineering issue by accident. It may have been unintended by leadership, if they put too much pressure on sales not realizing how it was corrupting the company, or the leadership may have tacitly approved of this. Hard to tell.
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Cloudflare wants Google to change its AI search crawling. Google likely won’t.
Cloudflare pushes Google to separate bots for AI Overviews and search indexing.
Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
Why did they copy the soundcloud logo?
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This did not sound like an isolated incident at all. You don't get sales responding to a legal/engineering issue by accident. It may have been unintended by leadership, if they put too much pressure on sales not realizing how it was corrupting the company, or the leadership may have tacitly approved of this. Hard to tell.
Are there reports from others about similar things?
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Are there reports from others about similar things?
The article links to 4 incidents that are reported on Hackernews. So yes. At least 4
