Unless users take action, Android will let Gemini access third-party apps
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eOS is forked AOSP and has all Google "contributions" removed.
so yes. it's Android.
and so, OP's SSO problems are null since eOS has no issue running it due to it just being android under the hood.
that apk doesn't install on arm Linux. Comparing eOS to Postmarket is apples to oranges. eOS is still chained by the buttcheeks to AOSP and Android.
AOSP may not contain google services, but you're still at their mercy. No Google = No AOSP, or whenever they feel like it. Tomorrow, maybe.
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This reminds me that i wanted to unlicl my bootloader on my phone...
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Hey Folks, we have "AI" for you and you will use it, whether you want it or not...
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Yes, but i have a Nothing Phone (1). I should check the other alternatives, but afaik lineageos does not support my phone.
The Mindset:
Lineage doesn't support my phoneI bought a phone that isn't supported by Lineage
I guarantee their device wiki existed before you bought your phone.
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Your chats are saved in your account for up to 72 hours, whether Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.
I wonder how long before AI services are added to ad blockers and VPN privacy controls.
up to 72 hours
(then we permanently add them to our private fingerprint folder based on any google-related link or api you've ever interacted with)
The time limits on their spyware might as well be ignored.
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Gemini: okay! i'm disabled
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I just went into my settings after reading this article (and getting a bit frustrated that it was a wall of text with no clear instructions right up front).
I did a search in settings for "gemini" and found the Gemini settings. There's no clear 'off' switch. But there's is an option to switch back to Google Assistant. So I did that. And not when I search for Gemini in settings it urges me to enable Gemini.
I'm taking that as a good sign that I've disabled it permanently. Thought I'd post this info in case it helps someone else. Or so if I'm incorrect somebody else can correct me.
I mean there were no instructions up front because literally Google is refusing to give them, basically.
No more choice just the company force feeding the user and saying it's good for them.Nowhere in the email or any of the Support pages did Google say how to remove all Gemini integrations from my phone.
I then emailed Google PR and... I asked if someone could provide actionable guidance for my readers who want to ensure Gemini integrations are completely disabled. Instead of answering the question, the person responding to my email wrote, in part: “This update is good for users: they can now use Gemini to complete daily tasks on their mobile devices like send messages, initiate phone calls, and set timers while Gemini Apps Activity is turned off. With Gemini Apps Activity turned off, their Gemini chats are not being reviewed or used to improve our AI models.”Literally that reads like you can't turn it off and they just scrape less of your data on a technicality.
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I just went into my settings after reading this article (and getting a bit frustrated that it was a wall of text with no clear instructions right up front).
I did a search in settings for "gemini" and found the Gemini settings. There's no clear 'off' switch. But there's is an option to switch back to Google Assistant. So I did that. And not when I search for Gemini in settings it urges me to enable Gemini.
I'm taking that as a good sign that I've disabled it permanently. Thought I'd post this info in case it helps someone else. Or so if I'm incorrect somebody else can correct me.
AICore under all apps. Disable and delete files. Done.
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Your chats are saved in your account for up to 72 hours, whether Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.
I wonder how long before AI services are added to ad blockers and VPN privacy controls.
Bwahahahah
I locked that shit out fucking day one. Fuck Gemini.
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Laughs in Graphene
Google: Laughs in "Everybody else you communicate with who has that shit enabled"
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Do you trust them? The Curve sub is full of people complaining about fraudulent transactions. Kinda makes me afraid of unlocking my card lol.
I haven't really put much effort into researching before I downloaded the app. What do you mean 'fraudulent transactions'?
Worst case scenario; I'll have to request a new credit card.
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Laughs in Graphene
Is it just me or does it seem slightly sus that GrapheneOS is only available for Google hardware...
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Google: Laughs in "Everybody else you communicate with who has that shit enabled"
Sadly true in any situation that requires talking to anyone else.
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Is it just me or does it seem slightly sus that GrapheneOS is only available for Google hardware...
There are many technical reasons why: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices
Every Android phone (besides Pixel) fails to meet the high technical requirements of the project.
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I mean there were no instructions up front because literally Google is refusing to give them, basically.
No more choice just the company force feeding the user and saying it's good for them.Nowhere in the email or any of the Support pages did Google say how to remove all Gemini integrations from my phone.
I then emailed Google PR and... I asked if someone could provide actionable guidance for my readers who want to ensure Gemini integrations are completely disabled. Instead of answering the question, the person responding to my email wrote, in part: “This update is good for users: they can now use Gemini to complete daily tasks on their mobile devices like send messages, initiate phone calls, and set timers while Gemini Apps Activity is turned off. With Gemini Apps Activity turned off, their Gemini chats are not being reviewed or used to improve our AI models.”Literally that reads like you can't turn it off and they just scrape less of your data on a technicality.
I just spent half an hour yesterday uninstalling all apps, registry entries and in-program options for Copilot in Windows and MS Office... but I still can't get rid of the Copilot button in Outlook. Searching for answers I ended up at the Microsoft support forums and clicked a link to office dot com... and realized there that the entire ecosystem is now called MS365 Copilot App (formerly known as Office)... so I suspect there will be NO way to remove this stuff in the future, and probably that MS365 Copilot will eventually replace Windows itself.
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Gemini? I don't have Gemini in my pixel 8a, stock
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I don't get it.
you're in a thread discussing the finer points of privacy concerns about a corporation snooping on your apps and your only example of a barrier to not use a privacy focused product is...your requirement for government backdoors and spyware?
also SSO works just fine on eOS. unless you're talking about googles MFA. at that point why are you even concerned about privacy?
The digital national ID is not corporate or government snooping. If you believe it is, I don't think this conversation can continue. What it is, is what's needed to log into your doctors system to schedule an appointment, or the schools system to read updates about your kids, or to log into your online banking. All of that, and more, in my country, is using the same ID system, which won't work on a rooted android phone (at least, I haven't been able to make it work for the past 3-4 major versions).
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The digital national ID is not corporate or government snooping. If you believe it is, I don't think this conversation can continue. What it is, is what's needed to log into your doctors system to schedule an appointment, or the schools system to read updates about your kids, or to log into your online banking. All of that, and more, in my country, is using the same ID system, which won't work on a rooted android phone (at least, I haven't been able to make it work for the past 3-4 major versions).
you must have a lot of trust in your government.
giving examples of what it's used for doesn't make it any better that you're forced to install software on your personal device by your government for simply existing and is an invasion of privacy.
in my country my government wanted to use facial recognition for online transactions that were previously accessible via government IDs. it was found that the facial recognition software was provided by a corporate identity provider that was then selling that same data to local police that then tracked people through local government surveillance.
when it comes to technology, I have zero faith in every government in the world to have my best interests in mind. they are all guilty of either being complicit in eroding civil rights or negligent in upholding the protections built for civil liberties.
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There are many technical reasons why: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices
Every Android phone (besides Pixel) fails to meet the high technical requirements of the project.
Sounds like they're intentionally setting the barriers to entry too high for anyone other than Google...
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Sounds like they're intentionally setting the barriers to entry too high for anyone other than Google...
Ok. Which ones, and why?
Edit: I can see the 5 and 7 year support, but what about the rest of the list?
