In a First, America Dropped 30,000-Pound Bunker-Busters—But Iran’s Concrete May Be Unbreakable, Scientists Say
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Previously, a yield strength of 5,000 pounds per square inch (psi) was enough for concrete to be rated as “high strength,” with the best going up to 10,000 psi. The new UHPC can withstand 40,000 psi or more.
The greater strength is achieved by turning concrete into a composite material with the addition of steel or other fibers. These fibers hold the concrete together and prevent cracks from spreading throughout it, negating the brittleness. “Instead of getting a few large cracks in a concrete panel, you get lots of smaller cracks,” says Barnett. “The fibers give it more fracture energy.”
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 01:42 zuletzt editiert vonGiving the yield strength in psi is the most pointless thing ever. Every single engineer would use metric Pa so its clearly a conversion for the average american idiot but the average American idiot has no idea what yield strength is.
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schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 01:42 zuletzt editiert von
"Hey there, you sexy bomb... I can't stay away!"
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From this article it sounds very likely that the bunker buster attack failed.
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 02:10 zuletzt editiert vonThe article is 3 years old
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I can't speak to that aspect. But I firmly believe that if our military planned and carried out this strike, then we had very good evidence that their bunkers were at a depth these ordinance could reach.
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 02:14 zuletzt editiert von coyote_sly@lemmy.worldConsider who actually makes this decision, in this case. It's highly likely our intelligence assessment here is very accurate orr flat out denied by the dipshits actually making the call if it's not what they want to hear.
Like they did publicly. On this conflict. To the press.
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I can't speak to that aspect. But I firmly believe that if our military planned and carried out this strike, then we had very good evidence that their bunkers were at a depth these ordinance could reach.
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 02:16 zuletzt editiert vonWhy would we bother with that level of analysis just to distract people from ICE raids?
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Giving the yield strength in psi is the most pointless thing ever. Every single engineer would use metric Pa so its clearly a conversion for the average american idiot but the average American idiot has no idea what yield strength is.
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 02:17 zuletzt editiert vonYour comment is informative but now all I can hear in my head is Green Day’s “American Idiot”.
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Previously, a yield strength of 5,000 pounds per square inch (psi) was enough for concrete to be rated as “high strength,” with the best going up to 10,000 psi. The new UHPC can withstand 40,000 psi or more.
The greater strength is achieved by turning concrete into a composite material with the addition of steel or other fibers. These fibers hold the concrete together and prevent cracks from spreading throughout it, negating the brittleness. “Instead of getting a few large cracks in a concrete panel, you get lots of smaller cracks,” says Barnett. “The fibers give it more fracture energy.”
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 02:28 zuletzt editiert von happyskullsplitter@lemmy.worldJust one followup question: Who cares?
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Trump didn't give the order to specifically destroy the bunkers
Had that order been given they would have continuously bombed the site(s) until it/they was/were destroyed
Judging by the results of the strike the order seems to be very limited
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I love how unhinged random fan wikis sound without context. Here for instance: Bunker Buster, see also: Concrete Donkey and Buffalo of Lies
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 03:21 zuletzt editiert vonI hadn't clicked the link yet, but Concrete Donkey told me what it was immediately
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schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 05:29 zuletzt editiert von
Blood of xenomorphs from the Alien movies
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Calling that pyramid age I think is a little disingenuous, they didn’t have 40,000 psi concrete back in those days.
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 05:57 zuletzt editiert vonThats fair yeah
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schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 06:11 zuletzt editiert vonI never really got why tactical and strategic nukes are so wildly different. Aren't those words more or less synonyms?
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I never really got why tactical and strategic nukes are so wildly different. Aren't those words more or less synonyms?
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 06:33 zuletzt editiert vonStrategic = Hiroshima getting obliterated
Tactical = The Imperial Palace is obliterated, but rest of Tokyo is mostly intact.
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I never really got why tactical and strategic nukes are so wildly different. Aren't those words more or less synonyms?
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 06:38 zuletzt editiert vonVery much not.
Tactical means immediately useful. E.g. use against troops.
Strategical means mediately useful. E.g. use against infrastructure and production capacity. Also massively killing civilians. This is where most heinous war crimes live. -
I never really got why tactical and strategic nukes are so wildly different. Aren't those words more or less synonyms?
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 06:52 zuletzt editiert vonGenerally yield and intention difference, strategic takes out cities, tactical takes out factories, military bases and compounds.
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Giving the yield strength in psi is the most pointless thing ever. Every single engineer would use metric Pa so its clearly a conversion for the average american idiot but the average American idiot has no idea what yield strength is.
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 07:14 zuletzt editiert von crapwittyname@lemm.eeI prefer my mechanical stress calculations in millidynes per square kiloparsec thank you very much.
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Giving the yield strength in psi is the most pointless thing ever. Every single engineer would use metric Pa so its clearly a conversion for the average american idiot but the average American idiot has no idea what yield strength is.
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 07:28 zuletzt editiert vonSorry bud, you're straight up wrong. Aerospace and defense in the US very much still uses the inch-pound-second system of units.
I'm not a concrete guy, but I know that metals and composites have material properties certified for use in civil and commercial aviation are given in psi in MMPDS and CMH-17. I would be willing to bet that concrete specifications in the US are no different.
I could keep going. Our bolts are specified in ultimate tensile strength by psi. Structural steel standards use minimum yield strengths in psi. There is literally a type of steel called A36 because its minimum required yield strength is 36,000 psi.
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The article is 3 years old
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 07:35 zuletzt editiert vonBut the information still seems valid.
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Previously, a yield strength of 5,000 pounds per square inch (psi) was enough for concrete to be rated as “high strength,” with the best going up to 10,000 psi. The new UHPC can withstand 40,000 psi or more.
The greater strength is achieved by turning concrete into a composite material with the addition of steel or other fibers. These fibers hold the concrete together and prevent cracks from spreading throughout it, negating the brittleness. “Instead of getting a few large cracks in a concrete panel, you get lots of smaller cracks,” says Barnett. “The fibers give it more fracture energy.”
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 07:43 zuletzt editiert vonI suspect the world would be safer if everyone just let Trump think he won.
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I mean they usually only do about 30 damage anyways.
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 07:47 zuletzt editiert vonSo Iran knew EXACTLY how strong they needed to make their defenses!
Pretty stupid of the American military to give that info to a game developer, that would obviously use it. -
Previously, a yield strength of 5,000 pounds per square inch (psi) was enough for concrete to be rated as “high strength,” with the best going up to 10,000 psi. The new UHPC can withstand 40,000 psi or more.
The greater strength is achieved by turning concrete into a composite material with the addition of steel or other fibers. These fibers hold the concrete together and prevent cracks from spreading throughout it, negating the brittleness. “Instead of getting a few large cracks in a concrete panel, you get lots of smaller cracks,” says Barnett. “The fibers give it more fracture energy.”
schrieb am 26. Juni 2025, 08:08 zuletzt editiert vonThey mean mixing in steel dust or nylon hair?
Hard to believe this is a recent enough thought.
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