But do Glaze, Nightshade, and HarmonyCloak really work to prevent that information from being used? Because at first, it may be effective. But then they'll find ways around those barriers, and that software will have to be updated, but only the one with the most money will win.

Breakthroughs are more or less of a myth. Everything is iterative.

AI is a venture capital money pit, and they are struggling to monetize before the hype dies out.

If the poison pills work as intended, investors will stop investing "creative" AI when the new models stop getting better (and sometimes get worse) because they're running out of clean content to steal.

Remind me in 3 days.

Although poison pills are only so effective since it's a cat and mouse game, and they only really work for a specific version of a model, with other models working around it.

Yes. That is actually an ideal function of ethical AI. I’m not against AI in regards to things that is is actually beneficial towards and where it can be used as a tool for understanding, I just don’t like it being used as a thief’s tool pretending to be a paintbrush or a typewriter. There are good and ethical uses for AI, art is not one of them.

AI has been around for many years, dating back to the 1960s. It's had its AI winters and AI summers, but now it seems we're in an AI spring.

But the amount of poisoned data is minuscule compared to the data that isn't poisoned. As for data, what data are we referring to: everything in general or just data that a human can understand?

I’ve deleted pretty much all social media, I’m down to only Lemmy. I only use my home PC for gaming, like CiV or cities skylines or search engines for things like travel plans. I’m trying to be as offline as possible because I don’t believe there’s any other way to opt out and I don’t believe there ever will be. Like opting out of the internet is practically impossible, AI will get to this point as well

The death of the private life

AI is everywhere now, but having the choice to opt out matters. Sometimes, using tools lik Instant Ink isn't about AI it’s just about saving time and making printing easier.

But they literally can't ask you for it if it is about high volumes of data that only become useful if you have all or close to all of it like statistical analysis of rare events. It would be prohibitively expensive if you had to ask hundreds of thousands of people just to figure out that there is an increase in e.g. cancer or some lung disease near coal power plants.

If AI is going to be crammed down our throats can we at least be able to hold it (aka the companies pushing it) liable for providing blatantly false information? At least then they'd have incentive to provide accurate information instead of just authoritative information.

Ah yes. The "freedom" the usa has spread all over its country and other nations.. Yes of course we must protect that freedom that is ofc a freedom for people to avoid getting owned by giant corporations. We must protect the freedom of giant corporations to not give us ai if they want to. I don't disagree but think people are more important

Agreed. The only thing that has really changed is how much hardware we can throw at it. ML has existed more or less since the 60s.

Breakthroughs are not a myth. They still happen even when the process is iterative. That page even explains it. The advent of the GAN (2014-2018), which got overtaken by transformers in around 2017 for which GPTs and Diffusion models later got developed on. More hardware is what allowed those technologies to work better and bigger but without those breakthroughs you still wouldnt have the AI boom of today.

They don't need most of the date, they need a statistically significant sample to have a high confidence in the result. And that's a small percentage of the total population.

And you could have something on file where you opt in to such things, just like you can opt in to being an organ donor. Maybe make it opt out if numbers are important. But it cannot be publicly available without a way to say no.

You can opt-out by deleting your accounts on corporate social networks.

Exactly. The focus should be on data privacy, not on what technologies a service chooses to use.

I posted it because you claimed none of that happened before 2020.

I never claimed anything besides that breakthroughs did happen since you claimed, which is objectively true. You claimed very concretely that AI was the same for over a decade, aka it was the same in at least 2015 if I'm being charitable, all of these things were researched in the last 7-8 years and only became the products as we know them in the last 5 years. (Aka 2020)

You are clearly only reading the parts you want to read. Have fun.