Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails
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faux pas
Not much of a "faux" pas. Not only did he double down on it, but the board supported him.
The plural of faux pas is also faux pas, because you know, French. But this is less one false step in the dance, than doing entirely the wrong dance altogether.
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Would you recommend one over the other and if so why?
I just tried "Language Drops" and it was... interesting. It didn't place me at the right level, so I got a very beginner lesson when I'm closer to intermediate (but definitely not fluent). I'm not sure I liked matching the pictures- the picture for "thank you" could mean different things depending on how you interpret the person's face and body language- and then I hit the end of the free content for the day. It didn't get to different tenses or even whole sentences- just basic vocabulary and no verbs. Maybe it ramps up quickly?
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I just tried "Language Drops" and it was... interesting. It didn't place me at the right level, so I got a very beginner lesson when I'm closer to intermediate (but definitely not fluent). I'm not sure I liked matching the pictures- the picture for "thank you" could mean different things depending on how you interpret the person's face and body language- and then I hit the end of the free content for the day. It didn't get to different tenses or even whole sentences- just basic vocabulary and no verbs. Maybe it ramps up quickly?
Sometimes the icons annoy me too and I wish the app had an option to always show the icon's label, but at least you can tap on the icon to see the label.
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The plural of faux pas is also faux pas, because you know, French. But this is less one false step in the dance, than doing entirely the wrong dance altogether.
Oh thanks for re-teaching me that one! It's been far too long since I last used French reallistically.
Even tho it's better that I took that than German, otherwise I'd understand the ich_iel memes which would make them lose half their charm. -
- Following backlash to statements that Duolingo will be AI-first, threatening jobs in the process, CEO Luis von Ahn has tried to walk back his statement.
- Unfortunately, the CEO doesn’t walk back any of the key points he originally outlined, choosing instead to try, and fail to placate the maddening crowd.
- Unfortunately the PR team may soon be replaced by AI as this latest statement has done anything but instil confidence in the firm’s users.
Where is the discussion for replacing CEOs with AI? Seems like predicting market trends based off of historical data and managing corporate resources would be just the sort of thing that AI would be good at. Plus it would cost way less and not require massive bonuses nor ownership of the company.
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Would you recommend one over the other and if so why?
As a complete beginner, Drops is pretty good for learning random words and increasing vocabulary. As you advance through it you start seeing sentences too, but it doesn't teach you how to make your own sentences, only to memorize the ones they pre-created.
Rosetta Stone doesn't translate anything. All of the content is in the language you want to learn and it tries to introduce you to things in a natural way. For example it shows a picture of someone biting an apple and says "the man eats an apple", then later shows other pictures related to one or multiple men, fruits and verbs, so you can get used to the differences between things just by observing those.
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- Following backlash to statements that Duolingo will be AI-first, threatening jobs in the process, CEO Luis von Ahn has tried to walk back his statement.
- Unfortunately, the CEO doesn’t walk back any of the key points he originally outlined, choosing instead to try, and fail to placate the maddening crowd.
- Unfortunately the PR team may soon be replaced by AI as this latest statement has done anything but instil confidence in the firm’s users.
If you're gonna be a shitty company and do shitty things, just STFU. I don't know why they think they can talk their way out of it, it's like they believe their own BS.
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- Following backlash to statements that Duolingo will be AI-first, threatening jobs in the process, CEO Luis von Ahn has tried to walk back his statement.
- Unfortunately, the CEO doesn’t walk back any of the key points he originally outlined, choosing instead to try, and fail to placate the maddening crowd.
- Unfortunately the PR team may soon be replaced by AI as this latest statement has done anything but instil confidence in the firm’s users.
Last year in February I uninstalled the app on a perfect, 2000-day streak when I got the first whiff of AI; I'm probably never going back
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If you're gonna be a shitty company and do shitty things, just STFU. I don't know why they think they can talk their way out of it, it's like they believe their own BS.
Because it worked since Steve Apple did the iphone. techie bootlickers larped it all up, furiously defending "their CEO" from any criticism online. It has hard to do it now with out being called for being a pathetic bootlicker, so most don't even try any more.
The parasites are now learning that the sentiment has turned, it will take sometime until their "PR" consultants catch on and come with some new "act"
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- Following backlash to statements that Duolingo will be AI-first, threatening jobs in the process, CEO Luis von Ahn has tried to walk back his statement.
- Unfortunately, the CEO doesn’t walk back any of the key points he originally outlined, choosing instead to try, and fail to placate the maddening crowd.
- Unfortunately the PR team may soon be replaced by AI as this latest statement has done anything but instil confidence in the firm’s users.
Any recommended alternatives?
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- Following backlash to statements that Duolingo will be AI-first, threatening jobs in the process, CEO Luis von Ahn has tried to walk back his statement.
- Unfortunately, the CEO doesn’t walk back any of the key points he originally outlined, choosing instead to try, and fail to placate the maddening crowd.
- Unfortunately the PR team may soon be replaced by AI as this latest statement has done anything but instil confidence in the firm’s users.
I just started using Duolingo to learn Spanish. Can anyone recommend alternatives they have had success with that function the same way?
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Check out "Language Drops" and "Rosetta Stone" if you're looking for replacements. They both have very different approaches to language learning (both from each other and from Duolingo), but their content is at the very least much better curated than Duolingo's.
I haven't gone out of my way to check but AFAIK neither of them is jumping on the AI-before-anything-else train.
Thanks for the recommendations!
I have actually switched over to Mango Languages because my library gives free access to it.
But if I don’t end up liking that I’ll give these a shot.
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Where is the discussion for replacing CEOs with AI? Seems like predicting market trends based off of historical data and managing corporate resources would be just the sort of thing that AI would be good at. Plus it would cost way less and not require massive bonuses nor ownership of the company.
Well, the crux of the problem is that AI is trying to approximate intelligence. That's not useful for a CEO.
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- Following backlash to statements that Duolingo will be AI-first, threatening jobs in the process, CEO Luis von Ahn has tried to walk back his statement.
- Unfortunately, the CEO doesn’t walk back any of the key points he originally outlined, choosing instead to try, and fail to placate the maddening crowd.
- Unfortunately the PR team may soon be replaced by AI as this latest statement has done anything but instil confidence in the firm’s users.
Classic "I've made a HUGE mistake" moment from yet another "thought leader" suffering from AI/layoff FOMO.
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Check out "Language Drops" and "Rosetta Stone" if you're looking for replacements. They both have very different approaches to language learning (both from each other and from Duolingo), but their content is at the very least much better curated than Duolingo's.
I haven't gone out of my way to check but AFAIK neither of them is jumping on the AI-before-anything-else train.
My recommendation is Language Transfer, a freely-available system for multiple languages that, in my opinion, helps you to think in another language better than any other system I have tried.
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faux pas
Not much of a "faux" pas. Not only did he double down on it, but the board supported him.
"the board" lol yeah they used to be governing mechanisms instead of a clown car full of sycophants.
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Because it worked since Steve Apple did the iphone. techie bootlickers larped it all up, furiously defending "their CEO" from any criticism online. It has hard to do it now with out being called for being a pathetic bootlicker, so most don't even try any more.
The parasites are now learning that the sentiment has turned, it will take sometime until their "PR" consultants catch on and come with some new "act"
Point of order; Steve Apple actually did awesome shit. Macintosh, iphone, NExT, Pixar, saved an enshittening company, etc.
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Point of order; Steve Apple actually did awesome shit. Macintosh, iphone, NExT, Pixar, saved an enshittening company, etc.
sure... good for him but why does every fucking parasite now think they can fill his shoes?
and how were they able to this cosplay for this long with out being called for it?
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sure... good for him but why does every fucking parasite now think they can fill his shoes?
and how were they able to this cosplay for this long with out being called for it?
Well, those are different questions . . .
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- Following backlash to statements that Duolingo will be AI-first, threatening jobs in the process, CEO Luis von Ahn has tried to walk back his statement.
- Unfortunately, the CEO doesn’t walk back any of the key points he originally outlined, choosing instead to try, and fail to placate the maddening crowd.
- Unfortunately the PR team may soon be replaced by AI as this latest statement has done anything but instil confidence in the firm’s users.
In another thread someone told me you can buy gems or something to keep your streak going.
That would've made me uninstall long before his comments.
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