This is a combination of terrible legislation in the UK meets awful social media site.

The Online Safety Act is an abomination, compromising the privacy and freedom of the vast majority of the UK in the name of "protecting children".

I'm of the view parents are responsible for protecting their children. I know it's hard but the Online Safety Act is not a solution.

All it will.do is compromise the privacy and security of law abiding adults while kids will still access porn and all the other really bad stuff on the Internet will actually be unaffected. The dark illegal shit on the Internet is not happening on Pornhub or Reddit.

The UK is gradually sliding further and further into censorship, and authoritarianism and all the in the name of do gooders. It's scary to watch.

Finally it seems the end of Reddit is near.

I don't think this is a good idea...

This is even more invasive - it would mean all the traffic and activity in every device would be traceable to a registration. Whereas now they might have a pretty good lock on individual device ids, they'd then have an actual registry of devices and owners to verify it against

it should be built into your internet contract

This works fine with personal contracts like your mobile. (EE has a porn filter that you can disable in your account.)

But it doesn’t quite work for contracts that usually have multiple users. Like your home Internet. Because a child could connect to your WiFi and access that shmutz.

Then have the ISPs provide an interface to set which devices can access porn. No ID required.

Finally it seems the end of Reddit is near.

Then have the ISPs provide an interface to set which devices can access porn. No ID required.

Finally it seems the end of Reddit is near.

If the UK is going to require adult verification it should be built into your internet contract. Yeah, I'm an adult. I'm paying my bills, of course I'm a fucking adult. I over pay for this garbage internet.

Uploading a selfie? The ai is going to determine if you're over 18? Can the ai determine if the selfie is also ai?

The arguments that I’ve seen against that is that the problem is the hardware. The child can figure out/find a hack to circumvent the restrictions. A determined 11/12 year old could do it. They’re the ones who still need restriction.

Finally it seems the end of Reddit is near.

Finally it seems the end of Reddit is near.

Real talk - or what? If LemmyNSFW isn't based in the UK, what can they do?

Block it? I'd rather have that than deal with processing users face data.

Finally it seems the end of Reddit is near.

Finally it seems the end of Reddit is near.

This whole thing is a security disaster waiting to happen.

The solution to all of this “think of the children” stuff is that devices owned/used by children should have to be registered as a child’s device, which would enable certain content blockers.

Forcing adults to verify their identity, rather than simply activating some broad based restrictions on devices being purchased for child use, is a waste of time. Kids will still find workarounds. Adult privacy will be compromised.

Its also an easily enforceable policy to require registration of children’s devices. You can hold the parents to compliance. You can hold the carriers to compliance. Its truly the simplest way to keep kids from accessing porn without having to mess with adult use of the internet whatsoever

So what you're telling me is you don't think an 11/13/14 yo could use an LLM to age up a selfie to gain access to subreddits they shouldn't be accessing (legally or morally). But you do think that same age group of children is going to gain root access to a device in order to flash some software to circumvent a device specific toggle limiting their device by hard coding it as a child's device.

The solution to all of this “think of the children” stuff is that devices owned/used by children should have to be registered as a child’s device, which would enable certain content blockers.

That's kinda the case right now already, but the problem is that adult-only sites don't work with that currently.

So the right solution would be to mandate that e.g. all sites are required to return a header with an age recommendation or something similar, so that a device set to child-mode then can block all these sites. And if a site doesn't set the header, it will also get blocked on child-mode devices

Wouldn't be too hard to do, and accidental overblocking would only occur on child-mode devices, so there's not much of a loss there.

Legislation could then be focussed on mandating that these headers aren't falsely set (e.g. a porn site setting the header to child-friendly).

Tbh I’m surprised they’re not asking for government issued id along with the selfie.