Prototype of RTX 5090 Appears With Four 16-Pin Power Connectors, Capable of Delivering 2,400W
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Nvidia has been pretty shit for the last few generations but this is clearly just an engineering prototype for testing, they obviously weren’t trying to make a 2400w 5090.
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In Europe, this is no biggie
I just saw a reputable 2400W kettle on a random online store for 50€
Looks like there are 3000W options too
Just imagine the costs of running such a system on European energy prices. We're at ~0,35€/kWh here in Germany currently. That means that an hour of running this will cost you 0,84€. Add to that the energy use of the CPU, mainboard, Monitor and you're paying well over 1€ per hour of gaming.
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It’s a bad idea either to go touching live wires either way, but the rule of thumb I heard was was that a 110V shock usually won’t kill you and 220V shock usually will.
That's completely incorrect though. I've been shocked by 230VAC at least a dozen times, if not more. And the fuse for the circuit absolutely should not be the limiter, the RCCB should trip WAY before the main fuse.
And the fuse for the circuit absolutely should not be the limiter, the RCCB should trip WAY before the main fuse.
While that certainly SHOULD be the case, in the US at least while RCCBs (we call them GFCIs) are generally required in wet areas and perhaps for new construction, in most older houses the majority of circuits don’t have any sort of ground fault protection other than the fuse/breaker. In my current house we have them on only two outlets - one in a bathroom and one in the kitchen.
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Electric companies after every nvidia gpu generation.
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3090 TDP 350 W
4090 TDP 450 W
5090 TDP 575 W -
And the fuse for the circuit absolutely should not be the limiter, the RCCB should trip WAY before the main fuse.
While that certainly SHOULD be the case, in the US at least while RCCBs (we call them GFCIs) are generally required in wet areas and perhaps for new construction, in most older houses the majority of circuits don’t have any sort of ground fault protection other than the fuse/breaker. In my current house we have them on only two outlets - one in a bathroom and one in the kitchen.
Wild...we don't have them on outlet-basis, it's the entire house that's protected by them, they're installed at the power-inlet to the house so everything is protected by it. And they're mandatory even on old houses.
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Just imagine the costs of running such a system on European energy prices. We're at ~0,35€/kWh here in Germany currently. That means that an hour of running this will cost you 0,84€. Add to that the energy use of the CPU, mainboard, Monitor and you're paying well over 1€ per hour of gaming.
Judges you from French 0.20€/kWh nuclear prices
If only you guys had listened to the science... You'd be gaming AND heating your place for cheap!
And regardless, unless the chip is radically different from what has been observed in currently available RTX 5090s, I don't see how 2400W can be anything other than a transient spike
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Judges you from French 0.20€/kWh nuclear prices
If only you guys had listened to the science... You'd be gaming AND heating your place for cheap!
And regardless, unless the chip is radically different from what has been observed in currently available RTX 5090s, I don't see how 2400W can be anything other than a transient spike
Let's not start a discussion about nuclear energy here. France has enormous subvention on electricity and Germany a lot of taxes. And both countries have issues in their energy system, so yeah
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Let's not start a discussion about nuclear energy here. France has enormous subvention on electricity and Germany a lot of taxes. And both countries have issues in their energy system, so yeah
France has taken away electricity subventions a long time ago, they were temporary relief during COVID only.
In fact, there are pretty high taxes here too, just the base cost is lower.
And I started this debate to challenge the notion that all of Europe has Germany's electrical management issues; they're the main ones to have failed.
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Nvidia has been pretty shit for the last few generations but this is clearly just an engineering prototype for testing, they obviously weren’t trying to make a 2400w 5090.
don't put it past nvidia.
they gotta fulfill those unrealized promises about native 4k gaming somehow.
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Judges you from French 0.20€/kWh nuclear prices
If only you guys had listened to the science... You'd be gaming AND heating your place for cheap!
And regardless, unless the chip is radically different from what has been observed in currently available RTX 5090s, I don't see how 2400W can be anything other than a transient spike
The nuclear and hydro over here in Canada puts us around 0.10€/kwh on average. Really wish processes for nuclear were streamlined decades ago, power would be even better now if it was
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I'm not trying to be a 1-upper, but you need to also include the power the computer and CPU use as well. Not to mention the age of the outlet and how many times a plug has been inserted/removed from it. The contact resistance can be pretty bad depending on how old the outlet is.
In most of the EU countries, that is fine as our sockets are mostly 16A rated. Unless you stick 2 of those GPUs in your PC
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The nuclear and hydro over here in Canada puts us around 0.10€/kwh on average. Really wish processes for nuclear were streamlined decades ago, power would be even better now if it was
I'm a little jealous of you guys, but we have mostly maxed out our potential in Europe for hydro power already...
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The recent technology connections video cited a lot of statistics on this topic, and at least household fires are primarily caused by overcurrent, not by arcing.
You probably know more than me — I only studied compsci with ee as minor — but from my personal experience, I've seen many cases where overcurrent caused damage, burns or fire, but I can't remember a single case where arcing caused actual damage.
Even in cheap chinesium powerstrips, the primary cause of fires is overcurrent due to AWG 22 copper clad iron wire, not arcing. (Though the switches usually weld themselves together after a few dozen uses).
Arcing causes more fires, because over current caused all the fires until we tightened standards and dual-mode circuit breakers.
Now fires are caused by loose connections arcing, and damaged wires arcing to flammable material.
Breakers are specifically designed for a sustained current, but arcing is dangerous because it tends to cascade, light arcing damages contacts, leading to more arcing in a cycle.
The real danger of arcing is that it can happen outside of view, and start fires that aren't caught till everything burns down.
